2005 GTO...You're Thoughts?

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James FreemanJr

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I have a chance to buy a 2005 GTO with the 6.0L LS2 with 8,000 on the OD. I've been thinking of trading the Trac in since my drive to my crappy job got about 60 miles longer. Seller wants 23K for it, still has 5yrs/60,000 left on the warrenty. Its manual and nice as all hell but I needed some opions about the newer GTO if anyone has rode in one (I have not going monday to test drive). Trading in Trac but probably won't get too much for it but I will get atleast $3,000 for it bringing my price down to 20K. Does this sound like a good deal? sticker says 25-28mpg (alot better than the 12mpg I'm getting even with the 6.0 I should get better gas mileage) Trac is paid for and getting up in miles (over 98,000) and I need something with some insurance and want something with some ohmp without breaking the bank. If I need to haul anything I always have 2 other trucks to do it with also.



Thanks.



PS. Called the insurance company also and said it would probably bump my monthly up about $20 for full coverage.
 
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I'd be really surprised at only a $20 bump in insurance coverage. Definitely a very rare car, or maybe it's because they look so generic that I confuse them with plastic cladded Grand Am's.
 
I had a new 1965 GTO I purchased when I was a young 19 yr old kid. I really loved that car and wish I still had it, but I would not give you a plum nickle for the new GTO's.



GM failed miserably with the new GTO by not making it something retro like the new Mustang or the Dodge Charger. They wanted the GTO to compete with the likes of BMW's and fell flat on their faces. When GM could not sell them the first year, they thought putting hood scoups on the next year would make up for the styling disaster. It didn't work.



They have plenty of power and handle very well, but the body looks like a cheap Kia, and that is not just my opinion, but the opinion of the majority of the buying public.



...Rich
 
Thanks guys. Still might go test drive it for fun. I don't think it looks THAT bad but it doesn't look that good either.



Darin : I'm on my parents government (NSA) insurance program with no tickets, no accidents and parents have never been in an accident or had tickets either thats why its so low.
 
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First of all, if you don't mind throwing away at least $5,000, go ahead and trade. I hope the $3,000 trade in allowance you wrote was a typo. A private party sale will bring you at least $8,000.



I have a friend with an 05 GTO. It looks good inside but outside, it's a dog. No class what so ever. Please reconsider your impulsive instincts. You can buy a lot of gas for the loss that you will take by purchasing this vehicle and loosing your butt on the Sport Trac. Also, the value of the GTO will not hold up. It really is a "Company Car look alike" with a powerful enine.



My 04 Cobra is much classier and faster than the GTO. Don't do it!!!!!!!!!!!



I am 64 years young and have been buying and selling muscle cars all my life. I can honestly say, the 05 GTO is a loser.



Your Sport Trac looks as though it has been very well taken care of. Continue taking care of it and it will serve you well. If you really want to throw away your money, go for it.



By the way, I also own an 03 Sport Trac and plan on keeping it until the wheels fall off:).



This is one of the most reliable vehicles Ford has ever built and very easy to work on.



David <><
 
They are excellent cars, well worth every penny paid for them, and then some. The 23K being asked is reasonable, but talk him as low as you can.



I wouldn't get a new GTO older then a 2005, as in '04 the had "only" 350 HP, plus a few other, smaller, changes that take away a bit from the overall package.



Because they are Aussie built cars, the GTO is more rugged then a comparable American, Asian, or Euro car.



For 2005, there were few options, you had a choice of exterior colors, and on some, interior color, auto/manual, hood scoop delete, 18" chrome wheels, and an "Action Pack", which included a different front air dam, side skirts, and rear fascia, as well as new exhuast tips and grille. They have <i>plenty</i> of oomph, and one of the best stock exhaust notes around. They can be a bit unsorted or broken roads whilst turning, but generally, the independent rear suspension works well. One thing you'll want to do, if you get it of course, is get an CAGS (somthing like that) eliminator kit..like the old Firebirds and Camaros, at anything less then near WOT acceleration, the car won't let you shift from 1st into 2nd, you have to go to 3rd. This is an attempt to improve gas mileage, but really it's just an annoyance more then anything else.



The car is pretty well optioned out, hence the lack of options. High-quality leather in high-bolstered sport seats, 4 bucket seats, 6-disc CD changer with a decent (for stock) sounding stereo, steering wheel audio controls, electric seats, etc.



Main complaints about the car are that on the instrument cluster, there is a bright green light behind the letters "MPH" on the speedo, which never turn off (unless the car is off), and do not dim when the headlights are on. It can be distracting. The rear spoiler also pretty much makes the inside mirror useless. You see little out the back. Not that the spoiler is big or anything, but the short vertical height of the rear window, matched with a average size car mirror means poor rearward visability. Being that it is a foergin car, there are a few "characteristics" that are normal overseas, but not to us Americans; there is no central lock button, the locking of the doors is controlled through the manual use of the door lock pin on the drivers door (I belive that later, a button was added, but I think that was for '06); if I remember, there are either no cupholders, or very small cupholders. Like I say, normal for cars outside our borders, but unheard of within.



One thing that is very novel on this car, which I wish other makers would catch-on to, when you press the Traction Control button to turn it off....it actually turns off. All the way off. It doesn't go into a "almost off" mode, it's off off. Be careful driving with T/C off, the GTO has plenty of throttle induced oversteer, but luckily, it's fairly responsive to steering input and off-throttle use. A modified GTO is the current American champion drifting car...



Just about the only complaint anyone has with the car is the looks, which stem directly from the use of the name GTO. If it were called anything else, people would more then likely sing the car's praises from the highest mountains; but, since the car isn't retro styled, it gets a bad rap. Don't let that fool you. Exterior looks are easily changed.
 
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I'm sure I will get more than $3,000 cause its one of those "drag it, tow it in! we don't care here at crazy bobs auto it will get $3,000 or more trade in" if its atleast not 6-8K I will tell them to piss off. It does have some problems (paint is in need of some care IE alot of scratchs and dings, also have some nice size dents in the hood)



Thanks Tigar and all the rest I guess the finally opinon is my own and I guess I will have to trust it. Too bad the damn 07 is WAY outta my price range :( that V8 with the exhaust does sound sexy :blink:
 
Tiger,

I agree with you for th3e most part. Much of the GTO's negative comments relate to the exterior appearance. Part of that comes from the fact that GM had introduced a GTO concept car a few years earlier, and everyone when ape over it. It looked retro, with numerous recognizable styling ques from the 1969-1970 GTO's. That's why most people were disappointed when GM when to Australia for an existing car. Yes, naming the car a GTO hurt the sales, however even if it had a different name, the styling was just to ho-hum to atract buyers. Styling is what sells cars in America, and if you are going to pay a premium price for a car with 400 HP you want something that will turn a few heads.



The problem was that GM did not have a rear-wheel drive car in their existing model of cars and none could be easily converted from FWD to RWD.



If you only want the raw HP then the GTO will give you that, however GM wanted it to be an upscale model to compete with BMW's and that's realy where they fell on their faces. Nobody want's to pay BMW prices for a Pontiac/Marano that looks more like it was made my Kia.



I see where GM is planning on re-introducint the Camaro again, but this time it will be a retro version with styling similar to the original 1967-1969 model years.



...Rich





 
It's kinda interesting, the GTO/Monaro is sold in Europe as a Vauxhall Monaro. The Euro press loves the car. Cheap price for what you get, raw, unrestrained power that BMWs and Merc's can't give you, impressive levels of fit and finish, nice materials, etc, etc. They too complain a bit about the styling, but near the amount of American media. Comparing Euro media and American media is apples to oranges, but I still think that the American media is very, very biased because of the name GTO. A resurected nameplate without the retro styling. Almost unheard of in the current trend of autos.



Eh, I'm a big fan of the car and think people write the car off too easily just because it doesn't look like a '69 Judge. I also think that '66 GTO is the best looking, and I seem to be the minority there too.
 
Tiger,

You are not alone in liking the early model GTO's. I also think the 1966-1967 where the best looking GTO years. I am partial to the 1965 since I owned one, but I actually looked at trading my 1965 GTO for a new 1966 when they first came out, and I only had my 1965 for a few months. I like the 1965 GTO styling alot better then the original 1964 model.



As for Europeans liking the Vauxhall/Morano. Yes the price is probably pretty reasonable over there compared to the cost of a BMW or Mercedes less HP. When I was there, the German cars were so expensive that one dealer I know was buying cheaper American cars, paying to have them shipped to Europe to sell to the Germans who wanted cheaper cars. Some of that was due to the German Mark to US Dollar exchange rate. There may be similar problems with the Euro exchange rate that gives some imported vehicles an advantage.



...Rich
 
My dad sold his '68 GTO earlier thiis year. :( He bought it new,when I was 4 years old. :(:( It was SWEEEEET!

 
but I still think that the American media is very, very biased because of the name GTO.



I agree. The GTO, IMO, does not deserve that name. Neither did the Nova, Impala, or Malibu. Call the current GTO something else and I think it would have done better. Baby boomers are getting to the retirement age and they have lots of money to spend to regain their younger days. The Mustang and Challenger are proof. The Charger is only selling because of the engine under the hood and the Challenger will ouutsell the Charger many times over. if GM would have put a body to actually look like a GTO, it would have been a top seller. The performance is there, but American's want a good looking body too.



The last generation of Camaro/Firebird prove it. They had more power then the Mustang did, but they were ugly as sin. The Mustang is still in production while GM killed the Camaro/Firebird.



Imagine Ford coming out with a new Torino to replace the Focus or GM to bring out a replacement El Camino that looks like a Subaru Baja. :lol: Do the name right. The herritage of American Iron is what made the big three who they are. Bring that back and people will say, Toyota who?





Tom
 
Well the test drive went very good. Car is fast as hell, damn lead foot of mine kept burning out and chirpin the tires :p. But the looks...well....when I saw pictures of it on the internet it didnt look that bad but in person it is a dog. I guess I will keep looking and saving untill I can afford something I like look wise and power wise. He didnt say anything about the aftermarket exhaust on it either (he probably didnt know) but I crawled under to take a look and it had 2 flowmasters (sounded like 40 series) but it sounded SWEET!
 
Check out a Mazda RX-8. Not quite as much power, but a lighter car. They are pretty flingable. They don't have the tire roasting ability of the GTO, but still a good car.



There was a second one I had in my mind, but I can't think of what it is now. Maybe a used G35 from Infiniti....
 
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