2022 Ford Maverick revealed — hybrid pickup gets 37 mpg, costs $21,490

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Always weird that they never mention the ST when they talk about Ford vehicles. It’s always the Ranger, Escape, F150 and now the Bronco. Even with the 4.5 foot bed, they don’t throw any comparisons to the ST, just the new “Flexbed” lol.

Like they are embarrassed of it or something.
 

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I do think the ST is a kind of truck that time has forgotten. I can't remember the last time I saw one (other than mine) on the road in my AO.

On paper and in pictures, the Maverick looks good, especially at that price. But I wonder what it will look like standing next to it.
 
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I know it's a pipedream, but I wish there were a car manufacturer left that overengineered everything so the cars were easy or easier to work on, and they were built to last.

Toyotas use to be that way, not that long ago, but over the last decade, they seem to have abandoned that virtue. Once upon a time, many decades ago, now Mercedes Benz used to be that way as well. The engineers and company took pride in the longevity and serviceability of their products.

In another 10 or 20 years, car mechanics will be computer engineers and electricians.
 

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I do think the ST is a kind of truck that time has forgotten. I can't remember the last time I saw one (other than mine) on the road in my AO.

On paper and in pictures, the Maverick looks good, especially at that price. But I wonder what it will look like standing next to it.
If it looks anything like the Bronco, then it will be a huge disappointment! Have you seen the Bronco up close? I get it. I'm an old fart who loves his ST 4.6 V8. I'll just keep fixing and updating mine. I still have complete strangers compliment it.
 

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I know it's a pipedream, but I wish there were a car manufacturer left that overengineered everything so the cars were easy or easier to work on, and they were built to last.

Toyotas use to be that way, not that long ago, but over the last decade, they seem to have abandoned that virtue. Once upon a time, many decades ago, now Mercedes Benz used to be that way as well. The engineers and company took pride in the longevity and serviceability of their products.

In another 10 or 20 years, car mechanics will be computer engineers and electricians.
Yes -- I have 2010 STA and a ML350... wish the STA had the quality of the Benz, but with the style and attitude of the SportTrac. I love my STA, but it feels very cheap and was clearly designed by using only existing Ford parts.
 

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If it looks anything like the Bronco, then it will be a huge disappointment! Have you seen the Bronco up close? I get it. I'm an old fart who loves his ST 4.6 V8. I'll just keep fixing and updating mine. I still have complete strangers compliment it.
DITTO>>DITTO....My 2004 may not be refined, but it is mine payed for and still looks contemporary..
 

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'looks good in blue, the pics I have seen were a bit tan and was not so much. The inside seems to be rather spartan also. I like my ST even though I have paid for it twice so far.
 

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Reason why Sport Trac not mentioned is because it's a better vehicle. Probably would out sale the new bronco, should have named the bronco the new pinto by the way. Having all those trucks in their lineup something is going to drop off. Most likely the Ranger? Should have brought back the sport trac label and upgraded to current tech. Maybe even hybrid or even all electric. Sport Trac couldn't keep with a changing area small-medium-large. Don't think this was a good move on Ford's part. But I'm sure they have their hands full trying to find chips right now.
 

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Reason why Sport Trac not mentioned is because it's a better vehicle. Probably would out sale the new bronco, should have named the bronco the new pinto by the way. Having all those trucks in their lineup something is going to drop off. Most likely the Ranger? Should have brought back the sport trac label and upgraded to current tech. Maybe even hybrid or even all electric. Sport Trac couldn't keep with a changing area small-medium-large. Don't think this was a good move on Ford's part. But I'm sure they have their hands full trying to find chips right now.

That's subjective.

In 2004, as hard as it is for some of you to believe, I spent the equivalent in today's dollars of $40K to buy my 2004 Ford Explorer Sport Trac XLT brand new.

They're selling this thing for $25k?
 

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Tough crowd . I guess it must be true that you can't teach an old dog new tricks.

I'm sure the Maverick was in the design stages long before any chip shortage began.

While the Maverick may not be a direct replacement for the outdated ST it does appear to be a game changer and should bring lots of younger buyers into Ford dealerships.

Rumor has it that Ford has restarted development of the pickup version of the new T6 based Bronco after a six month hiatus. While it will definitely be more off-road capable than either the Maverick or the Sport Trac I'm sure y'all will still find lots to bitch about. :rolleyes:
 

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I hope to keep my ST until 200k or so, should get me another 5-6 years, then see what the second-hand market for Mavericks looks like..
If I could afford a new car it would be very tempting..
 

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Tough crowd . I guess it must be true that you can't teach an old dog new tricks.
While it will definitely be more off-road capable than either the Maverick or the Sport Trac I'm sure y'all will still find lots to bitch about. :rolleyes:
Really?

You're on a Sport Trac forum. The Sport Trac was not a cheap vehicle when new. It is not a pickup truck. If I wanted a pickup truck there are lots to choose from out there. If I wanted something more offroad capable I'd get a Jeep. (Oh, that's right, I already have one!)

Not sure what part of this community's love-affair with the way the Sport Trac was designed as an SUV with a pickup bed you missed, despite being on here for 15 years.

Yeah, it's a tough crowd. We like our niche vehicle. The new tricks you refer to require accepting a vehicle that addresses a very different primary use or market price segment.

I want a vehicle that is comfortable for my 6'3" body to drive cross country for 12 hours in a day, an engine that will tow a decent load and climb hills at high altitude without dropping down to 2nd gear or winding up the turbo for hours at a time. I want a comfortable ride, not a pounding one. I want some creature comforts. I want better legroom in the back seat. I want back seats that fold down, not up. I want an electric rear window with a vent position. I want selectable 4WD and low range so I can explore that dirt back road when I want to.

And I'm willing to pay more than $25,000 for all of that if I buy a new vehicle.

In the mean time I'll continue to enjoy what I have that meets all of those requirements and take good care of it.
 
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Anything without a full frame underside. Is good for only street. Plus as others said. I want torque without high rpm turbo, to get it.
As long as we have maintenance parts. Even the gen 1 Tracs will be tougher than the uni maverick.
 

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Anything without a full frame underside. Is good for only street. Plus as others said. I want torque without high rpm turbo, to get it.
As long as we have maintenance parts. Even the gen 1 Tracs will be tougher than the uni maverick.

You're probably correct. The Sport Trac is certainly a much simpler truck than the Maverick or any vehicle put out today. I like simple, I can work on "simple."

The '00s might be the last truly roll-up your sleeves and do it yourself era of vehicals out there. So if you think having a PCM and dash cluster circuit board are problematic electronic components, wait until you see what's on the current batch of trucks, SUVs, and cars.

Cars and trucks coming out today really are throwaway products. After they're out of warranty, they will slowly become a nightmare to own.

But that's the market the Maverick is targetting. 20-something urban or suburban dwellers who want a cheap truck so they can occasionally haul stuff. After their loan is paid off, they'll trade it in on a new car loan.
 

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I'll break the trend here and say I like what I'm seeing in the new Maverick. My 03 ST is still running pretty well with about 136K on the clock. I still love the ST and have made a lot of great trips with her. As long as she runs well I'm in no rush to take on a car payment. That said, I really like the fact the base engine on the Maverick is a hybrid. 40mpg sounds great. Now in my mid-60s, I'm not 4-wheeling anymore, not hauling big stuff, and never did need a real "truck." The ST was a good size and fit for me. A new Maverick would have 20-year newer technology than my ST. For a guy who'll use it to run around, make occasional trips to haul stuff home from Home Depot, and probably doesn't even put 10K miles a year on a vehicle anymore I'm thinking the Maverick could be a great fit.
 

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Really?

You're on a Sport Trac forum. The Sport Trac was not a cheap vehicle when new. It is not a pickup truck. If I wanted a pickup truck there are lots to choose from out there. If I wanted something more offroad capable I'd get a Jeep. (Oh, that's right, I already have one!)

Not sure what part of this community's love-affair with the way the Sport Trac was designed as an SUV with a pickup bed you missed, despite being on here for 15 years.

Yeah, it's a tough crowd. We like our niche vehicle. The new tricks you refer to require accepting a vehicle that addresses a very different primary use or market price segment.

I want a vehicle that is comfortable for my 6'3" body to drive cross country for 12 hours in a day, an engine that will tow a decent load and climb hills at high altitude without dropping down to 2nd gear or winding up the turbo for hours at a time. I want a comfortable ride, not a pounding one. I want some creature comforts. I want better legroom in the back seat. I want back seats that fold down, not up. I want an electric rear window with a vent position. I want selectable 4WD and low range so I can explore that dirt back road when I want to.

And I'm willing to pay more than $25,000 for all of that if I buy a new vehicle.

In the mean time I'll continue to enjoy what I have that meets all of those requirements and take good care of it.
I owned a Sport Trac for 12 years and 164k miles and the MSRP was over $34k back in 2007 so I do know what it's like to own one. I obviously liked it too or I would never have kept it for as long as I did. Unfortunately, Ford abandoned that market for years. I had hoped the "new" Ranger would be a decent replacement but when they gave us a ten year old design with a turbo four banger I said no thanks and bought my current F-150 instead. Once you get used to the size it's not all that bad and even with the Coyote V8, 4x4 and 3.73:1 axle ratios it still gets over 20 mpg with the cruise control set on 75 mph. I couldn't come close to that with my old V8 ST. However, if Ford builds a pickup version of the new Bronco I will be all in.
 
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