??? About re-paint

[EddieS'04]

Took my Trac by one body shop yesterday. To look at repairs needed.



I was told that that they use water based, base coat color. Instead of laquer base as the factory paint.

He goes on to tell me EPA wont allow it. He said, all aftermarket repairs are water base coat. That sounds fishy. Why would the factory be allowed to use laquer base coat color. If it is against EPA.



Anyone have info or thoughts on this. If I remember it was the water based paint that did all the dis-coloration and peeling. Also worried about the match of the silver birch metalic. Using water base.

 

[H D]

Large corporations often pay the fines associated with running their business as necessary to provide the best product rather than compromise their product just to meet fictitious environmental goals. Smaller businesses can't afford to do that.



I know Lockheed in Marietta, GA pays hundreds of thousands of dollars a day in EPA fines rather than meet the impossible regulations placed on them.



"It's not a tax because they have the option of complying with the mandate and avoiding the payments." Sound familiar?



And we wonder why econobox junk vehicles still cost $25k.

 

[Richard L]

Eddie,

The factory does not use a lacquer based paint...it's actually a urathane based paint as are most modern base coat/clear coat paints.



There is nothing wrong with using the new water based paints...they are as durable as the original paint.



The auto makers are allowed to use the paint they want, but auto body shops are restricted by individual state laws. Most body shops don't even mention any restrictions about using only water based paint since it is really not an issue that the consumer needs to worry about as long as they give you a warranty on the paint. All the body shops I have used claim they ue PPG paints and they come with a lifetime warranty.



Don't let the term "water based" make is sound like the paint will wash off when it is touched by water...That is a false impresson and you will find that you, as a consumer will not be able to tell the difference.



...Rich

 

[Todd Z]

Just have to blend it properly to the adjacent panels to make a uniform look on the vehicle and you should be good....i have used those paints with no issues..



Todd Z

 

[Bob Floyd]

Even all Marine Bottom paint is water based now and it works fine...under water after its dry..

 

[EddieS'04]

Thanks, Guys....I feel better

This was a major dealer. I was just suprised they would use water base coat.

 

[H D]

I never paid any attention to the type of paint they used when I had my Cougar painted. I just wanted the color I chose and a warranty. Ended up disappointed in the long run, but that was because I used Maaco...not the quality of the paint. It still looks really good but in the spots where they messed up the body work, I am less than satisfied. My fault for using Maaco, really.

 

[Bryan Tobey]

Solvent based (urethane) paint and water based paint vary primarily in the "carrier."



Solvent paint uses VOCs (volatile organic compounds) as a carrier. When the paint "dries" these VOCs are released leaving the pigment on the panel. In water based paint, regular old H20 is the carrier so there is no "off-gasing" to worry aobut.



Similar to the difference between oil-based and latex house paint.

 

[mike burns 3]

hate to see bad stuff spread



http://www.lockheedmartin.com/us/who-we-are/sustainability/from-inside/go-green.html



although I'm no longer a part of Lockheed I can say they do try.



We should send ever American to Ningbo or Bejing China for 6 weeks. Youll be amazed how much you miss clean air, water, and open spaces when you dont have them. We in the US tend to take them for granted but others will never have them.