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Auto Union Looks to Recover Concessions From Ford During Contract Talks
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<blockquote data-quote="zaffo oxnard" data-source="post: 957898" data-attributes="member: 53598"><p>I have been on both sides of the fence. I am a college educated smatrie and have had to restrain people who hear "we just made 6.6 billion" from giving out 10% raises because "we made a ton of money". We didn't make a ton of money, and neither did Ford. The people who are guiding Ford did and are doing a great job. They are doing a better job than any other auto maker, let them tell the Unions what they can afford. They know better than anyone else and they have proved it. Do they get paid well, yes they should.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The quotes from the Union leadership make me dizzy. I can't help but see these guys sitting on a bar stool sucking on a pickled pigs goot and drinking old style, then getting in their new f-150 and heading home. They are the great cursaders out to protect the $30-40 dollar an hour manufacturing jobs with full benefits. "gett it al back / knock dowm ford". Is this just rehtoric? Or do they believe this? </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>This is exactly why Obama made the UAW a co-owner of the GM turd. Now, they have a vested interest in making it work better, or their retirement, tiied up in new GM stock, is in a world of hurt. Whether the rank and file get this, I have no clue. That the people working for Ford who get cash contributions to healthcare and retirements funds - not stock - make these kinds of comments is stunning.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I want the UAW to reform and keep salaries / benefits good and on par with what the rest of of the country gets. Uneducated workers making $57 an hour (yes, all in, count all the dollars)? Are you kidding me? Coal miners, heck yes. They die all the time. Working on a line, come on man!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="zaffo oxnard, post: 957898, member: 53598"] I have been on both sides of the fence. I am a college educated smatrie and have had to restrain people who hear "we just made 6.6 billion" from giving out 10% raises because "we made a ton of money". We didn't make a ton of money, and neither did Ford. The people who are guiding Ford did and are doing a great job. They are doing a better job than any other auto maker, let them tell the Unions what they can afford. They know better than anyone else and they have proved it. Do they get paid well, yes they should. The quotes from the Union leadership make me dizzy. I can't help but see these guys sitting on a bar stool sucking on a pickled pigs goot and drinking old style, then getting in their new f-150 and heading home. They are the great cursaders out to protect the $30-40 dollar an hour manufacturing jobs with full benefits. "gett it al back / knock dowm ford". Is this just rehtoric? Or do they believe this? This is exactly why Obama made the UAW a co-owner of the GM turd. Now, they have a vested interest in making it work better, or their retirement, tiied up in new GM stock, is in a world of hurt. Whether the rank and file get this, I have no clue. That the people working for Ford who get cash contributions to healthcare and retirements funds - not stock - make these kinds of comments is stunning. I want the UAW to reform and keep salaries / benefits good and on par with what the rest of of the country gets. Uneducated workers making $57 an hour (yes, all in, count all the dollars)? Are you kidding me? Coal miners, heck yes. They die all the time. Working on a line, come on man! [/QUOTE]
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