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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Doug Kaye" data-source="post: 1044780" data-attributes="member: 73761">thanks.. these tires are M+S rated, but I know there's a lot of difference between tires with the same M+S rating.. we take my wife's MDX with good tires anytime we expect snow/ice or go up to the mountains. I carry chains for the back roads and real bad ice/snow, but they are a bore to put on, drive on, and take off.. used to live in Sacramento with an Econoline RWD, the chains got us through some nasty winter roads in Yosemite and the Sierras. We gave away the Econoline but I kept those chains for more than a decade, until finally got the Sport Trac which fits the old chains ;-)</blockquote>