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I just tried to do my taxes and they said my wifes Mountaineer can not be used for the tax break. It is listed as a clean fuel vehicle (since it will accomodate E85) they said it is not on the list. the funny thing is the list now only consists of "Hybrid" vehicles. I even called the IRS myself and was told the same thing they told my accountant. Here is a link from the IRS site of the vehicles covered. If you already got the deduction, congratulations. Evidently they can change the list half way through because I know I looked before and her vehicle was listed, now it's not.
 
I took the sticker of both my Trac and my wifes Explorer right into the accountant. He made a copy of it that said "FLEX FUEL" and sent it in with my taxes. This was last year. I got $4000.00 total deduction and no hassles from the IRS...



We did this as her vehicle was not on the list. My accountant said I had the proof required and included it into my taxes.
 
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Not eligible myself. My understanding is that deduction was a one time only deduction for the year in which you bought your eligible vehicle. Is that correct?
 
stonemiser,

The tax forms do not even ask you what brand of vehicle you purchased?? There is a list that the IRS published with the names of some vehicles, but I don't believe anyone felt that those were the only vehicles included.



Many people read the list and did not file. Others were told by their tax preparer that their Sport Trac was not on the list so they could not file for the Clean Fuel deduction. However there are more than several dozen people here that did file for the deduction last year and their 1040A's were accepted.



The first rule to learn with the IRS is: You are intitled to file for any deduction that you think you are legally intitled to. I cases where their instructions are confusing or ambiguous, you can still file for that deduction and the IRS will need to make the determination if you are eligible. You will not be arrested as a Tax fraud because they made it confusing. In fact, in most occassions where the IRS rules were confusing or ambiguous, the courts ruled in favor of the tax payer because of the confusion the IRS created.



The worst that can happen is the IRS will disallow your Clean Fuel deduction, and you will have to pay more taxes and a few dollars more for interest. You will not be penalized, nor arrested. And that will not automatically trigger an Audit. As long as you can justify why you claimed any deduction, it will not be considered a fraud.



...Rich
 
I called the IRS prior to filing this year. Here is how it played out. Yes I was intitled to a tax credit of up to 2000 dollars for the purchase of my 2004 ST. I purchased it new in 2005 and am preparing taxes for 2005. Here is were the confusion sets in: The ST is not on the approved list. However, this list is not all inclusive. Also the credit is based on the cost for either you to modify the car to operate on E85 fuel or the cost for ther manufacture to make it run on flex fuel. As the Sport Trac comes standard as a Flex Fuel vehicle you have to contact Ford to find out the cost of parts. Not an easy thing to. I called my dealership and was on the phone with the parts department manager. He was unaware that the Sport Trac was a Flex Fuel vehicle. Does not speak well for the dealership. He was getting his info from some service bullitan. So in my case I took the entire credit. I forget the name of the part but the price for it plus the cost of labor that would be there to have this installed would come to over 2000. Each person will have to decide for themselves how much to take. All I can say is I received my rebate check with no problems.:D
 
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Hyjack77,

That is where others were confused last year. The part about the cost of converting to a clean fuel vehicle only applies to commercial/business vehicles....Not to privately owned vehicles, used primarliy for personal use.



Like I said, dozens of people here applied for that deduction and I have not heard of anyone that was rejected by the IRS.



...Rich
 
All I was told was that it will be kicked back by two seperate IRS agents. And the reason is because it is not on the list. Oh well, it was going to give me an extra $300 back but I'm not going to chance it. I wasn't afraid of being arrested or anything but I don't want them comming back and saying I owe them $300 plus interest for them changing the rules.;)
 
I took the $2000.00 deduction for the 2005 ST I bought in May 05. The IRS did accept my tax forms and said my refund would be here around March 28. I think I thought I saved $300.00 in taxes. If not I will pay later. Nothing chanced Nothing gained.

Who knows I'll wait and see.:wacko:



I did my own taxes the hard way, no software, I filled out the forms myself.





Mark S
 
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Did my own with Turbo Tax. Several specific vehicles were listed and then there were "other vehicles under 10000lbs gross weight" ... that's the one I chose and my return was accepted by IRS.



Ken
 
I just checked the IRS website for the status of my refund. Refund will be deposited in my checking account electronically on March 3, I get the amount that I figured when I did my taxes.

Yelp got the clean fuel tax credit.:D

I saved $300.00 in taxes, stuck it to the man, I mean the gov

I'm in the moneyyyyyyyy now.:wub:



Hope this info helps settle the doubt:)







You can check your status at www.irs.gov
 
If you purchased your Flex-Fuel ST new, you can take the one-time $2000 deduction in the year of purchase. I did it in 2004, and didn't have any problems. Here's the info straight from the gov't web site:



Clean-Fuel Vehicle Incentives



Consumers purchasing a new clean-fuel vehicle by the end of 2005 may be eligible for a one-time "Clean-Fuel" vehicle tax deduction of up to $2,000! This also applies to gasoline-electric hybrids.

NOTICE: New legislation has changed the tax incentives for clean-fuel vehicles. Clean-fuel vehicles placed in service by December 31, 2005 are still eligible for the tax incentives described on this page. Those placed in service after this date will no longer be eligible for these deductions but may be eligible for a federal income tax credit under new legislation. Watch this page for updated tax credit information as it becomes available.

What are clean-fuel vehicles?



The U.S. federal tax code defines "clean-fuel" vehicles as motor vehicles designed to be propelled by one of the following fuels:



* Natural gas

* Liquified natural gas (LNG)

* Liquified petroleum gas (LPG)

* Hydrogen

* Electricity (e.g., some gasoline/electric hybrids)

* Any other fuel that is at least 85% alcohol or ether (e.g., E85)



How much is the deduction?



The deduction is equal to the cost of the vehicle's engine, the equipment used to store or deliver the fuel, and the equipment used to exhaust combusted gases, up to a maximum of $2,000 for vehicles places in service by the end of 2005.



For vehicles that may be propelled by both a clean-burning fuel and any other fuel, the deduction is limited to the additional cost of permitting the use of the clean-burning fuel, with the same maximum deductions detailed above.



The IRS determines the maximum deduction for specific gasoline-electric hybrid models. Click here for more information on hybrids.



How do I claim the deduction?



Whether you itemize or take the standard deduction, you can still claim the clean-fuel tax deduction. Unless the vehicle is purchased solely for business use, simply include the deduction on your 2004 1040 tax form in the "Tax, Credits, and Payments" section. Enter the amount of the deduction and the words "Clean Fuel" on the line next to line 35 and include the deduction in the total.



Sample of clean fuel entry in 1040 form:



If you purchased the vehicle solely for business use, just claim the deduction on the "Other expenses" line of either Schedule C or Schedule F.

What if I bought my vehicle before 2004?



If you bought your vehicle in a previous tax year, you must fill out an amended tax return Form 1040X for that year.



Are there other requirements?



Yes.



* You must purchase the vehicle new and for your own use, not for resale.

* You must drive it mostly in the United States.

* The vehicle must meet all federal and state emissions requirements.

* Government agencies, tax exempt organizations, and foreign entities are not eligible.

* The vehicle must have four or more wheels and be manufactured primarily for use on public streets, roads, and highways (it does not include a vehicle operated exclusively on a rail or rails).



If any of these conditions change within 3 years of purchase, you may have to return some of the money saved by the deduction.



When does this incentive end?



The current clean-fuel vehicle tax deduction will end after December 31, 2005. However, vehicles purchased after this date may be eligible for a federal income tax credit , depending upon their fuel economy, fuel savings, and other factors.
 
Train Trac, That is the same page I took to my accuntant and she agreed that it should be covered. We bought it in Aug. of 2005 and it was a new vehicle. (4 miles on it) If you got to the bottom of that part of the page, it says "clean-fuel vehicle deduction available for certain models". If you go to that link it says:

Note: The information below applies only to Tax Years 2005,2004 and 2003. New rules were initiated under the Energy Policy Act of 2005, which apply to Tax Year 2006.]



The original purchaser of a qualifying hybrid gas-electric car may deduct $2,000 for the year the vehicle is first used, if that year is before 2006. These vehicles qualify for the clean-fuel vehicle deduction:



Ford Escape Hybrid — Model Year 2006

Mercury Mariner Hybrid — Model Year 2006

Lexus RX 400h — Model Year 2006

Ford Escape Hybrid — Model Year 2005

Toyota Prius — Model Years 2001 through 2006

Toyota Highlander Hybrid — Model Year 2006

Honda Insight — Model Years 2000 through 2005

Honda Civic Hybrid — Model Years 2003 and 2005

Honda Accord Hybrid — Model Year 2005



This is what the "agents" (i use that word loosely) read to me.

Like I said before. If you got it congrats. I can't get my accountant to put it on there for me so I'm out $300.;)
 
The first rule to learn with the IRS is: You are intitled to file for any deduction that you think you are legally intitled to.



As long as people think like this, my best friend's wife doesn't have to look for a new job. She works for the IRS and is one of the folks that places liens on taxpayers' property.
 
Coastie, you said you claimed $4000 last year ($2k each for 2 vehicles)? I thought the limit of the deduction was $2000 per year, regardless how many applicable vehicles apply?



TJR
 
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