Gavin Allan
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If this is true (and it sounds very reasonable to me, as to what I see every day), this country is in deep doo-doo.
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Facinating article on the Republicans
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Robert Thomas
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Is the country in "deep doo-doo" is a question of what one, as a voter, wants out of his/her country. We (wife and I) cast a vote strictly on what we thought was the best vote for the country, basically it was "reducing the debit". We gave no weight at all to what any candidate may do or not do for us personally. The electorate took a different track and is now set up to continue that direction for a number of years. The Republican party is presently in a no win situation. At the next election the Democrats will most likely take both the House and Senate.
This is what the electorate voted for, so in their view the US is not in deep doo-doo.
For there sake I hope they are right.
After this election, we formulate a outlook close to what the article establishes. We think the twenty trillion dollar debit projected is very optimistic, in reality it will be close to 24 in four more years. When interest rates start jumping up, they have to because they have be artificially reduced for the last 12 years, the country is then in deep doo-doo or worse. At this point the US will not have enough income to even meet it's debit interest payments. The US will no longer be able to print money and lend it to itself. We will become Greece.
We no longer feel need to participate in the vote again. At ages 66 and 68, no future vote by us can alter this outcome. The country as we know it is gone and we now must take actions to protect our quality of life given the Tuesday vote. We respectfully turn the country over to others that will have to live with the results.
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This is what the electorate voted for, so in their view the US is not in deep doo-doo.
For there sake I hope they are right.
After this election, we formulate a outlook close to what the article establishes. We think the twenty trillion dollar debit projected is very optimistic, in reality it will be close to 24 in four more years. When interest rates start jumping up, they have to because they have be artificially reduced for the last 12 years, the country is then in deep doo-doo or worse. At this point the US will not have enough income to even meet it's debit interest payments. The US will no longer be able to print money and lend it to itself. We will become Greece.
We no longer feel need to participate in the vote again. At ages 66 and 68, no future vote by us can alter this outcome. The country as we know it is gone and we now must take actions to protect our quality of life given the Tuesday vote. We respectfully turn the country over to others that will have to live with the results.
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Kevin Lang
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EddieS'04
In Memoriam 1950-2022
I too will be 63. Wont have to live with it very long. Most likely will die broke. Most likely will get filled with pain meds and allowed to die.
Im wondering if I need to turn my home into a fortress...LOL
There will be those that want what I have worked for. There will be those wanting to steal your food...yes Im a cynic...But there are social educated people that are predicting it...Sooooooooooo
Robert Thomas
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Eddie,
I have not gone to the bunker yet. But, one is smart to move a little money around, provide for secondary health care, and think about moving if necessary. We are a little more fortunate than some others. We have saved our money, have never bought anything we could not afford, don't have any debit, don't have to worry about other family members, or taking care of ourselves during a natural disaster. If you think about it the major problem of the country is debit. It is doubtful that it can hurt people of our age, actually it may help us.
I have not gone to the bunker yet. But, one is smart to move a little money around, provide for secondary health care, and think about moving if necessary. We are a little more fortunate than some others. We have saved our money, have never bought anything we could not afford, don't have any debit, don't have to worry about other family members, or taking care of ourselves during a natural disaster. If you think about it the major problem of the country is debit. It is doubtful that it can hurt people of our age, actually it may help us.
Gavin Allan
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Dang! I had just a little bit of hope left. Now it is completely crushed after reading your posts which I am convinced are right on.
I need another 30 years out of this place at best, but I fear it will not be the best years of my life. Graduated highschool into the Energy Crisis. Graduated from College during the recession of the '80s. First mortgage was 14% for 30 years. Never have experienced appreciation of real estate. Wages have been flat for the past 20 years. Lost my 401k savings. Employment benefits keep declining. Despite my whole life being screwed out of the things my parents were able to enjoy, I have felt in the past like I have done OK. Now I fear the future worse than I ever have.
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RIP USA
I need another 30 years out of this place at best, but I fear it will not be the best years of my life. Graduated highschool into the Energy Crisis. Graduated from College during the recession of the '80s. First mortgage was 14% for 30 years. Never have experienced appreciation of real estate. Wages have been flat for the past 20 years. Lost my 401k savings. Employment benefits keep declining. Despite my whole life being screwed out of the things my parents were able to enjoy, I have felt in the past like I have done OK. Now I fear the future worse than I ever have.
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RIP USA
EddieS'04
In Memoriam 1950-2022
Robert,
All I own is paid for also. I have managed to save a good amount of $$. In anuities and IRA's.
Not saving much nowdays as when I was working. With retirement and disability. Im able to pay my cards off every month. With $$ left over.
Last couple of years I have been buying some things I want and dont need. I need to slow down and save it though. If I would get my butt to the VA. Im sure I qaulify for agent ornge dissability also. Most likly that is what caused my nerve damage.
All I own is paid for also. I have managed to save a good amount of $$. In anuities and IRA's.
Not saving much nowdays as when I was working. With retirement and disability. Im able to pay my cards off every month. With $$ left over.
Last couple of years I have been buying some things I want and dont need. I need to slow down and save it though. If I would get my butt to the VA. Im sure I qaulify for agent ornge dissability also. Most likly that is what caused my nerve damage.
Frank screwyourednecks
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Gavin.. Just get a second job and quit complaining.. Jeez what do you want...a handout?? Lol
Robert Thomas
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Gavin,
Your actually doing better than we were at your age. Don't go by my outlook, we are just taking actions based on our situation. You are working towards the future and gathering all the information you can. Keep thinking in advance and you will be better off than most.
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Eddie,
Don't slow down, just work it out so the check to the undertaker bounces. Strange you have nerve damage and I am trying to block a bunch of nerves that work to much. Wish I could give you some of mine.
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Your actually doing better than we were at your age. Don't go by my outlook, we are just taking actions based on our situation. You are working towards the future and gathering all the information you can. Keep thinking in advance and you will be better off than most.
:haveabeer:
Eddie,
Don't slow down, just work it out so the check to the undertaker bounces. Strange you have nerve damage and I am trying to block a bunch of nerves that work to much. Wish I could give you some of mine.
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Gavin Allan
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Working toward the future? I can retire in 8 years and I am worried there won't be anything left when I get there.
Frank- hell yeah, I'll take a handout. If I can't beat 'em, I'll just join 'em.
Frank- hell yeah, I'll take a handout. If I can't beat 'em, I'll just join 'em.
Frank screwyourednecks
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Let me know where to pick up these hand outs. I know its a popular catch phrase for the wing nuts. But please let me know how 47 percent (51) are not working and getting hand outs. (7% unemployment)
Kevin Lang
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Frank, you mean you don't have a 'BamaPhone? Geez, you must have missed the memo.
Since they were even handed out as "incentives" to drop in a vote for Barry, when you go and pick up yours, could you get me one? After all, you voted twice for Obama in 2012, so it'll be legit, right?
Since they were even handed out as "incentives" to drop in a vote for Barry, when you go and pick up yours, could you get me one? After all, you voted twice for Obama in 2012, so it'll be legit, right?
Frank screwyourednecks
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Mark K 2
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Romney lost because Romney was a bad candidate. For the life of me, I can't figure out why the Republicans, out of tens of thousands of qualified people in their ranks, couldn't come up with people better to offer than McCain and Romney for the last two elections. Then to top it off in 2008, they picked fricking Palin to be number two. Jesus Martha.
Moderates that I've talked to cite their selection of Obama this time because Romney was all over the dial. From day to day, his stances on issues changed. With Obama, they knew what they were getting and he could only get better during a second term.
Moderates that I've talked to cite their selection of Obama this time because Romney was all over the dial. From day to day, his stances on issues changed. With Obama, they knew what they were getting and he could only get better during a second term.
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