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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Thomas Rogers" data-source="post: 568326" data-attributes="member: 60724">Caymen says:That seems to the point of contention with large companies like GM that are going down the tubes.  Both sides are pointing the finger at the other blaming them for the state of the corporation.  Unions are blaming GM execs with running the company into the ground and not being properous and being able to meet their demands; and executives are blaming unions and their demands as the reason they can't make a profit.Typically, when that kind of thing happens, there is enough blame on both sides to go around.I really think both are at fault, unions have bound employers to benefits and wages that they just can't provide (downsizing, rightsizing and cutbacks have been a way of life the pastg 20 years in the non-union world), and executives have failed in creating a profitable business given what is clearly forecastable costs of union employees.And, our government continues to prop up companies like GM.Dinosaurs become extinct often because they are too big to live through radical change.  Unions added to the bueracracy, IMHO.TJR</blockquote>