Dre L
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So how's the FL job market these days? IT specifically, but anything will do. I want to just pack up and move the hell out of NY.
Florida Job Market
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Nobleman, I know for a fact that my company is hiring for IT. If you are interested in a move to FL, Orlando specifically, you might want to check out Harcourt School Publishers. You can go to www.harcourt.com and click on our division (harcourt school publishers) and search jobs. It is a global company with lots of job security and pretty good pay (especially our IT dept.). Let me know if you need any more info.
Jenn
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Nelson Atwell
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The Florida State website has links to job resources in Florida. Check out the link below from www.myflorida.com
Florida is a big state and I have not heard anyone having a problem finding work, except in the less populated areas of the panhandle.
Florida is a big state and I have not heard anyone having a problem finding work, except in the less populated areas of the panhandle.
Chops
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Nobleman gotta tell you the running joke down here...........
What is the most beautiful, breathtaking, serene site to see down here?
Sunset at the Keys with all the majestic colors? No.
Sunrise on the Atlantic after a light shower? No.
Morning fog burning off on the Everglades? No.
9 out of 10 Floridians are overwhelmed with the absolute, unconditional beauty of a car with NY tags northbound on I-95 :lol::lol::lol::lol:
Seriously come on down, everybody is from somewhere else.
What is the most beautiful, breathtaking, serene site to see down here?
Sunset at the Keys with all the majestic colors? No.
Sunrise on the Atlantic after a light shower? No.
Morning fog burning off on the Everglades? No.
9 out of 10 Floridians are overwhelmed with the absolute, unconditional beauty of a car with NY tags northbound on I-95 :lol::lol::lol::lol:
Seriously come on down, everybody is from somewhere else.
yankeegator
Active Member
Another FLA favorite:
Q: What's the difference between Yankee and a damned Yankee?
A: A Yankee goes back home in March...:lol:
Sincerely,
a damned Yankee(gator)
Q: What's the difference between Yankee and a damned Yankee?
A: A Yankee goes back home in March...:lol:
Sincerely,
a damned Yankee(gator)
Thomas Rogers
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If you don't want to go that far South, Nobleman, send my your resume, the company I work for has offices in PA and GA.
What type of IT job you looking for?
TJR
What type of IT job you looking for?
TJR
Stephane Bolduc
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Well, many things comes in mind, as I did a similar move 8 years ago; from Montreal to Tampa.
1) Get ready for a pay cut (on the other side, houses are still at decent price and no state taxes. My townhouse is for sale btw....)
2) What's your specialty ?
3) You want 3 seasons or 2 ? Jacksonville will have a good 3 seasons, but lower than Tampa/Orlando, you're looking at 2.5 seasons.
4) Personnally, I don't think I could afford to live in the Fort Lauderdale/Miami/Boca Raton area. Make sure you look at the cost of living over there compared to other regions like Tampa/Orlando/Fort Myers. You might never be able to own a house in Boca Raton and only make 10% more than the Tampa area.
5) I'm not sure about the other areas, but in Tampa, the market is mostly through consulting companies.
6) what's your sector; if banking and customer service (from an IT perspective); then Tampa might just be the place for you.
BTW : moving from a metropolitain town to a southern state is not easy. Be ready for some kind of cultural shock. Florida has been growing REAL fast in the pas 5 years and the best is still to come.
And concerning real estate; when the market crashes in the most saturated (over valued) areas of the US, Florida won't feel the effect as much. There's 1000 new habitant per day in FL; which drives the demand for real estate. This number will only go up as the baby boomers retires.
1) Get ready for a pay cut (on the other side, houses are still at decent price and no state taxes. My townhouse is for sale btw....
)2) What's your specialty ?
3) You want 3 seasons or 2 ? Jacksonville will have a good 3 seasons, but lower than Tampa/Orlando, you're looking at 2.5 seasons.
4) Personnally, I don't think I could afford to live in the Fort Lauderdale/Miami/Boca Raton area. Make sure you look at the cost of living over there compared to other regions like Tampa/Orlando/Fort Myers. You might never be able to own a house in Boca Raton and only make 10% more than the Tampa area.
5) I'm not sure about the other areas, but in Tampa, the market is mostly through consulting companies.
6) what's your sector; if banking and customer service (from an IT perspective); then Tampa might just be the place for you.
BTW : moving from a metropolitain town to a southern state is not easy. Be ready for some kind of cultural shock. Florida has been growing REAL fast in the pas 5 years and the best is still to come.
And concerning real estate; when the market crashes in the most saturated (over valued) areas of the US, Florida won't feel the effect as much. There's 1000 new habitant per day in FL; which drives the demand for real estate. This number will only go up as the baby boomers retires.
Thomas Rogers
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Out-of-state drivers get a bad rap, IMHO. Most of the time these people just don't know where they are going and should be cut some slack. NY drivers, IMHO, are more aggressive on average than PA drivers, and PA more than Delaware and MD, and GA and Fla drivers the least aggressive...and by aggressive I mean people that "make their own" breaks in traffic, etc. In many ways its because the Northern drivers have to drive that way (not a good excuse I know).
Rick Kent
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I would have guessed the most beautiful site in Florida would be the ambulance pulling away and the realization that you were not the one flat lining in the back of it....
John Draper
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I think that FLA has one of the best job markets in the country, if not the best. Growing in leaps and bounds and getting a bit crowded in some places.
Dre L
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I almost forgot about this post, I've been running around so much lately, I genuinely thought today was Monday... but it took a while for me to realize that... went to wipe the dirt off someone's forehead until it clicked that those were ashes... even heard about Ash Wednesday ceremonies on the morning news and thought it was odd that they would be reporting about it so early in the week.
Thanks to all for the info and advice. I knew some of this stuff already, but some of it was real food for thought.
Thanks for the heads up Jenn D. I've been checking out HBJ (apparently they're just 'H' now) for quite some time, ever since I saw their sign from I-4... I work with books currently, anything related catches my eye. All right fine, I'll admit I saw it when I was a kid and noticed the HBJ sign before I noticed Sea World, and was a big nerd and remembered my textbooks. Glad to hear it is a nice place to work.
As for the paycuts and all that, I've thought them over carefully, then considered what I have now:
~$10K in annual State and City income tax.
Living:
My choice of:
$1200/mo. 400 sq. ft. studio apt. 5th floor walk-up
or
$3000/mo. 800 sq. ft. 2BR apt (elevators optional), landmark or trendy district +3K more.
The insurance on the Trac is reasonable at $1600/year. That's gone down over the years from $2200, which was a steal since my first car ran $3300.
$80/mo. mass transit (i might miss the ride, but not the people, or the urine / decomp / B.O / puke smells that may be included free of charge.)
Parking: $200-infinity and beyond per month. $40/8 hours
18.75% parking tax
$65-$150 parking tickets, towed away?... you poor *******.
Raw steak in Manhattan $9/Lb, same steak from a back alley meat warehouse in Brooklyn / Queens $4/Lb. (commercial rent is even more ridiculous)
Thanks to all for the info and advice. I knew some of this stuff already, but some of it was real food for thought.
Thanks for the heads up Jenn D. I've been checking out HBJ (apparently they're just 'H' now) for quite some time, ever since I saw their sign from I-4... I work with books currently, anything related catches my eye. All right fine, I'll admit I saw it when I was a kid and noticed the HBJ sign before I noticed Sea World, and was a big nerd and remembered my textbooks. Glad to hear it is a nice place to work.
As for the paycuts and all that, I've thought them over carefully, then considered what I have now:
~$10K in annual State and City income tax.
Living:
My choice of:
$1200/mo. 400 sq. ft. studio apt. 5th floor walk-up
or
$3000/mo. 800 sq. ft. 2BR apt (elevators optional), landmark or trendy district +3K more.
The insurance on the Trac is reasonable at $1600/year. That's gone down over the years from $2200, which was a steal since my first car ran $3300.
$80/mo. mass transit (i might miss the ride, but not the people, or the urine / decomp / B.O / puke smells that may be included free of charge.)
Parking: $200-infinity and beyond per month. $40/8 hours
18.75% parking tax
$65-$150 parking tickets, towed away?... you poor *******.
Raw steak in Manhattan $9/Lb, same steak from a back alley meat warehouse in Brooklyn / Queens $4/Lb. (commercial rent is even more ridiculous)
Wes Davis
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You will not go wrong by moving to Florida. You will take a pay cut but living expenses are much much less here. When you look for a job consider companies that have headquarters in the northern states such as New York, Connecticut, New Jersey etc. These companies tend to pay more in line with the northern pay scale. If you want to own a home stay away from the se coast Miami to West Palm. The gulf coast and even more so in the middle of the state is very affordable for homeowners. The most important thing to keep in mind and the most enjoyable in my opinion is that it's a totally different lifestyle down here. I find it very peaceful and relaxing. If I get stressed out with my work a simple drive across the causeways of Tampa Bay or a ride down A1A on the east coast completely cures me. If I am really in bad shape and can't take it anymore the Florida Keys are only an hour away and a trip on the overseas highway will remove 10 years of age from your life.
Johnny O
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I looked into it years ago and decided I couldn't handle the pay cut plus a higher cost of living than PA. The "Sunshine Premium" is worth about $8-10k a year in most jobs and a lot of things tend to be seasonal. Not that you're totally out of work, but half the year can be real slow in a lot of occupations. Friends and family there tell me this is less so as more people move there to live year-round. I visited my parents in Ft. Myers last week, not many houses there for less than $200k anymore and most are over $300k. Doing what I do, I'm not anywhere close to affording a mortgage on something like that. Except for hurricane season, the weather sure is nice though.
Dre L
Well-Known Member
Me feel the same.
Doug Watts
Active Member
Nobleman, I just used the cost of living calculator on Salary.com pretending I was moving from Tampa to NYC, NY.
Here's what I got back "The cost of living in New York, NY is 93.0% higher than in Tampa, FL." and "Employers in New York, NY typically pay 22.8% more than employers in Tampa, FL."
So you can expect your salary to go down, but your COL will go down significantly more so it will be like getting a raise if you can get an equivalent salary when you change jobs.
Here's what I got back "The cost of living in New York, NY is 93.0% higher than in Tampa, FL." and "Employers in New York, NY typically pay 22.8% more than employers in Tampa, FL."
So you can expect your salary to go down, but your COL will go down significantly more so it will be like getting a raise if you can get an equivalent salary when you change jobs.
Dre L
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I hate salary.com, they ruin my view on life
Sadly, even at 93% NYC is not the most expensive place to live. But a 93% COL drop with only a 23% drop in pay, and a 95% better quality of life, is very worthwhile. I'd say that FL pay is comparable to what I should be making now... In other words, I'm underpaid in my current NYC position, so even a slight drop off from what I currently make, is like getting a raise.
Sadly, even at 93% NYC is not the most expensive place to live. But a 93% COL drop with only a 23% drop in pay, and a 95% better quality of life, is very worthwhile. I'd say that FL pay is comparable to what I should be making now... In other words, I'm underpaid in my current NYC position, so even a slight drop off from what I currently make, is like getting a raise.
