Internet Router Question?????

[Kevin Palmer]

OK, my wireless system has worked perfectly for many months now. I have it set up like this.



Cable modem to wired router to PC. And wired router to a wireless router (Because of a commercial firewall on the wired router it is the only way it could be done as still be secure for my wifes work).



My laptop is the only wireless computer. Bought my daughter a wireless card for her B-day. Installed it and it sees the network but will not log on. Removed the security key and ensured my laptop still works and logs on, it does.



Here is the kicker. If I try to get hers to log on mine will no longer log on unless I unplug the router and let it do a power reset, (not the button reset on the back).



All components are linksys. So I thought I'd try her card in my computer and I can not get it to work there either. I have a WPC54G (Original version, no version number) and hers is a WPC54G Version 3. So basically the same card only upgraded technology I would think.



I am to the point of thinking the card is defective. But why can I not log into my network once I try her computer w/her card.



Any suggestions????



Thanks.

 

[Jacob Dryer]

I'm not sure but it might help someone else to know if you are using the linksys utility or the build in XP wireless utility.

 

[Pat Freeman]

I've had this same problem when my wife and I were trying to use the unit. My wife moved out and the problem went away.

 

[Bob McDonald]

Pat,



I think maybe you meant both your problems went away. LOL

 

[Kevin Palmer]

Pat, as much as I like your solution that is not feasible for me. In fact, I am sure that if it ever comes to it I will be the one leaving... LOL



I am not using either utility knowingly. I installed my wireless card and simply started to use it. Tried the same with my daughters and can not get connected.



I have used my card in her computer prior to getting her own card. It worked fine. It will not now that I have installed her card.

 

[Bob McDonald]

Coastie,

I have used my card in her computer prior to getting her own card. It worked fine. It will not now that I have installed her card.

Any chance that the hardware device manager in her PC still think is has your old card? If so, you may have to delete it from the hardware manager config. Just a thought.

 

[George C]

Since you have 2 routers, both with the option of being dhcp servers (giving out addresses) one of them should be turned off. Is it possible you don't have this configuration set up correctly?



Also, it's possible the wired router is only set to give you 1 ip address through dhcp. This is unusual but possibly set up that way as security to prevent you adding additional computer to the network. Are you able to get into the setup of both routers?



Versions of the cards don't matter as far as compatibility. As long as they are both wireless b or g compatible you are fine.



George

 

[WXMotorSports DecalsPartsAccs]

George makes a good point. I'm fighting with my ISP provider as they told me I was going to get two dedicated IPs. Well, they only gave me one and their 4port router/modem is only assigning one IP. I'm sure their hardware has some kind of preventive software to do what I want it to do. I can't get the Linksys to take the IP and run DHCP to the other systems in the shop.



CJ - did you configure the router for the static IP and the other computers for DHCP?

 

[Kevin Palmer]

George, DHCP is disabled. I can get into both router setup pages.



Good thought on the single user theory.

Not sure where to look when I get into the setup but I will do some digging..



Thanks.

 

[Casey B]

You might want to update the firmware on the router/s. The wireless router should have a firewall the same as the wired one.

 

[JohnnyB]

I just replaced a bad WPC54G V.2 with a brand new V.3.

It works if you have windows handle the card and not the Linksys software. Their software just does not work very well. As soon as I shut down the Linksys software and told windows to handle the wireless card it all worked fine.

 

[Kevin Palmer]

JohnyB.



Good thought as well.



Delete the linksys software and let windows install it via the net?

 

[Richard L]

Coastiejoe,

Check your email.



I just sent you an email with an attached .PDF document that will show you how to set up a LinkSys woreless router, although it would work well for any brand of router.



...Rich

 

[Kevin Palmer]

Rich, have not gotten your mail yet???



It works fine until I try to connect her computer. Then it basically is non-existent. It does find the network but will not log on. You can plug into the router and it works perfectly. It is only the wireless part of the router that is an issue.



I have two IP's. The second is within the family of the first.



I will have more time tomorrow to take a better look at things...

 

[Richard L]

Coastiejoe,

OK, I sent you another email from my other email service which is faster and more reliable.

I sent both emails to the email address in your profile. So you will probably get the first email eventually, but the second copy should have already arrived.



...Rich

 

[Kevin Palmer]

Got it Rich, thanks....

 

[Dale Carlson]

Kevin,



Are you getting something like a yellow symbol that says you have "limited or no connection"? Also, when you open Network Connections on your daughter's computer (with the wireless card installed), do you see at least two LAN Connections?



In any case, since you mentioned in a previous post that Linksys support helped you set this network up, you might want to give them a call back. The reason I say that is since you've disabled the wireless router security, you've possibly left a back door open into your wife's network, and you'll want to get that closed as soon as possible.

 

[Kevin Palmer]

kefguy, yes it connects with "Limited or No Connection". And yes there are two LAN connections.



No back door as the wired router is the router wired direct to the PC. The PC has no connection to any other device. The firewall is BIG BUCKS by a private company and they have confirmed for me that I am good to go.



Thanks for any input.....

 

[Dale Carlson]

All I'm saying is that since the wireless is directly connected to the wired router, and it is not secured, you have one less layer of security than you did before. The wireless is one more way in.



Now, as far as the "limited or no connection" thing. That means the card is physically receiving RF from the wireless, but the computer configuration is such that the incoming packets don't have a direction to go. In other words, the card is working, but the computer's not set up right.



This usually means that the computer and the wireless are on different networks. For example, if the router (also known as the gateway) IP address is 192.168.1.1, and the wireless card's address is 192.168.0.1, they are on two different networks and won't be able to connect. In the case of these two addresses, the first three set of numbers define the network address, the fourth number is the host's address.



If you open the Command Prompt, and type in "ipconfig /all" (without the quotes), you'll be able to tell if the card and the router are on the same network. The readout from that command the identifies the settings for each network device, so it should be readily apparent if the card and router are playing from the same sheet of music. Or not.



This is my setup:



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