ToddZ that is true . These are my summer tires that I would NEVER run in the winter. I use 265/60/18's on the stock rims with aggressive all seasons in the winter . These are Sailun Atrezzo Canada model. Handle awesome in the rain and super quiet. You sure feel the road when you have almost 2 feet of rubber on the ground in front of you. Corner like a dream with the lower profile. Don't take me wrong as like I said I would NEVER use these in the winter.