EddieS'04
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I saw on the news, that you cant call it looting anymore. You have to call it, "Misapropriation of non-esential goods"...:lol::lol:
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John Mastrocco
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And it's no longer "black market trading."
It's "Entrepreneurial enterprise management"
It's "Entrepreneurial enterprise management"
TomT
Well-Known Member
And on the subject of political correctness, here's a great article written by a Canadian no less:
Canadian Press On Bush
A bit more objectivity than we get from our own press and politicians.
George Bush, the man. David Warren, The Ottawa Citizen
Sunday, September 11, 2005
There's plenty wrong with America, since you asked. I'm tempted to say that the only difference from Canada is that they have a few things right. That would be unfair, of course -- I am often pleased to discover things we still get right.
But one of them would not be disaster preparation. If something happened up here, on the scale of Katrina, we wouldn't even have the resources to arrive late. We would be waiting for the Americans to come save us, the same way the government in Louisiana just waved and pointed at Washington, D.C. The theory being that, when you're in real trouble, that's where the adults live.
And that isn't an exaggeration. Almost everything that has worked in the recovery operation along the U.S. Gulf Coast has been military and National Guard. Within a few days, under several commands, finally consolidated under the remarkable Lt.-Gen. Russell Honore, it was once again the U.S. military efficiently cobbling together a recovery operation on a scale beyond the capacity of any other earthly institution.
We hardly have a military up here. We have elected one feckless government after another that has cut corners until there is nothing substantial left. We don't have the ability even to transport and equip our few soldiers. Should disaster strike at home, on a big scale, we become a Third World country. At which point, our national smugness is of no avail.
>From Democrats and the American Left -- the U.S. equivalent to the people who run Canada -- we are still hearing that the disaster in New Orleans showed that a heartless, white Republican America had abandoned its underclass.
This is garbage. The great majority of those not evacuated lived in assisted housing and receive food stamps, prescription medicine and government support through many other programs. Many have, all their lives, expected someone to lift them to safety, without input from themselves. And the demagogic mayor they elected left, quite literally, hundreds of transit and school buses that could have driven them out of town parked in rows, to be lost in the flood.
Yes, that was insensitive. But it is also the truth; and sooner or later we must acknowledge that welfare dependency creates exactly the sort of haplessness and social degeneration we saw on display, as the floodwaters rose. Many suffered terribly, and many died, and one's heart goes out. But already the survivors are being put up in new accommodations, and their various entitlements have been directed to new locations.
The scale of private charity has also been unprecedented. There are yet no statistics, but I'll wager the most generous state in the union will prove to have been arch-Republican Texas and that, nationally, contributions in cash and kind are coming disproportionately from people who vote Republican. For the world divides into "the mouths" and "the wallets."
The Bush-bashing, both down there and up here, has so far lost touch with reality, as to raise questions about the bashers' state of mind.
Consult any authoritative source on how government works in the United States and you will learn that the U.S. federal government's legal, constitutional, and institutional responsibility for first response to Katrina, as to any natural disaster, was zero.
Notwithstanding, President Bush took the prescient step of declaring a disaster, in order to begin deploying FEMA and other federal assets, two full days in advance of the storm fall. In the little time since, he has managed to co-ordinate an immense recovery operation -- the largest in human his
Canadian Press On Bush
A bit more objectivity than we get from our own press and politicians.
George Bush, the man. David Warren, The Ottawa Citizen
Sunday, September 11, 2005
There's plenty wrong with America, since you asked. I'm tempted to say that the only difference from Canada is that they have a few things right. That would be unfair, of course -- I am often pleased to discover things we still get right.
But one of them would not be disaster preparation. If something happened up here, on the scale of Katrina, we wouldn't even have the resources to arrive late. We would be waiting for the Americans to come save us, the same way the government in Louisiana just waved and pointed at Washington, D.C. The theory being that, when you're in real trouble, that's where the adults live.
And that isn't an exaggeration. Almost everything that has worked in the recovery operation along the U.S. Gulf Coast has been military and National Guard. Within a few days, under several commands, finally consolidated under the remarkable Lt.-Gen. Russell Honore, it was once again the U.S. military efficiently cobbling together a recovery operation on a scale beyond the capacity of any other earthly institution.
We hardly have a military up here. We have elected one feckless government after another that has cut corners until there is nothing substantial left. We don't have the ability even to transport and equip our few soldiers. Should disaster strike at home, on a big scale, we become a Third World country. At which point, our national smugness is of no avail.
>From Democrats and the American Left -- the U.S. equivalent to the people who run Canada -- we are still hearing that the disaster in New Orleans showed that a heartless, white Republican America had abandoned its underclass.
This is garbage. The great majority of those not evacuated lived in assisted housing and receive food stamps, prescription medicine and government support through many other programs. Many have, all their lives, expected someone to lift them to safety, without input from themselves. And the demagogic mayor they elected left, quite literally, hundreds of transit and school buses that could have driven them out of town parked in rows, to be lost in the flood.
Yes, that was insensitive. But it is also the truth; and sooner or later we must acknowledge that welfare dependency creates exactly the sort of haplessness and social degeneration we saw on display, as the floodwaters rose. Many suffered terribly, and many died, and one's heart goes out. But already the survivors are being put up in new accommodations, and their various entitlements have been directed to new locations.
The scale of private charity has also been unprecedented. There are yet no statistics, but I'll wager the most generous state in the union will prove to have been arch-Republican Texas and that, nationally, contributions in cash and kind are coming disproportionately from people who vote Republican. For the world divides into "the mouths" and "the wallets."
The Bush-bashing, both down there and up here, has so far lost touch with reality, as to raise questions about the bashers' state of mind.
Consult any authoritative source on how government works in the United States and you will learn that the U.S. federal government's legal, constitutional, and institutional responsibility for first response to Katrina, as to any natural disaster, was zero.
Notwithstanding, President Bush took the prescient step of declaring a disaster, in order to begin deploying FEMA and other federal assets, two full days in advance of the storm fall. In the little time since, he has managed to co-ordinate an immense recovery operation -- the largest in human his
John Mastrocco
Active Member
When did Brit Hume move to Canada and change his name?
Good article. Some insight from a foreign national. It's rare when we see a non-US centric view. And there are a lot of them that have insight but we tend to ignore them unless they parrot our own views. We should all be exposed to the foreign press more than we are. Helps to clean out the pores, so to speak.
Good article. Some insight from a foreign national. It's rare when we see a non-US centric view. And there are a lot of them that have insight but we tend to ignore them unless they parrot our own views. We should all be exposed to the foreign press more than we are. Helps to clean out the pores, so to speak.
Nelson Atwell
Well-Known Member
The foreign press is available to anyone that looks on the internet. One of the most impressive papers I have ever read is the Times of India.
It is in English, and provides a very fair and balanced (and even literate) approach to reporting the news. They simply report the events, without commentary or opinion. It is very refreshing. Any commentary is limited to the editorial and commentary pages, which is where it belongs.
It is in English, and provides a very fair and balanced (and even literate) approach to reporting the news. They simply report the events, without commentary or opinion. It is very refreshing. Any commentary is limited to the editorial and commentary pages, which is where it belongs.
ReggieMRegalOne05 Legaspi
Well-Known Member
Received this in an email an hour ago, some of you might have seen this before elsewhere, thereby old story by your standards.
The following segment was taken from "Biker News", a site directed toward providing "bikers" information about their lifestyle.
The rant (I'm assuming) is from the site's editor.
I've been sitting here with my ass in a wad, wanting to speak out about the ******** going on in New Orleans.
For the people of New Orleans... First we would like to say, Sorry for your loss.
With that said, Lets go through a few hurricane rules: (Unlike an earthquake, we know it's coming)
#1. A mandatory evacuation means just that... Get the hell out. Don't blame the Government after they tell you to go. If they hadn't said anything, I can see the argument. They said get out... if you didn't, it's your fault, not theirs. (We don't want to hear it, even if you don't have a car, you can get out.)
#2. If there is an emergency, stock up on water and non-perishables. If you didn't do this, it's not the governments fault you're starving.
#2a. If you run out of food and water, find a store that has some. (Remember, shoes, TV's, DVD's and CD's are not edible. Leave them alone.)
#2b. If the local store is too looted of food or water, leave your neighbor's TV and stereo alone. (See # 2a) They worked hard to get their stuff. Just because they were smart enough to leave during a mandatory evacuation, doesn't give you the right to take their stuff... it's theirs, not yours.
#3. If someone comes in to help you, don't shoot at them and then complain no one is helping you. I'm not getting shot to help save some ******* who didn't leave when told to do so.
#4. If you are in your house that is completely under water, your belongings are probably too far gone for anyone to want them. If someone does want them, Let them have them and hopefully they'll die in the filth. Just leave! (For Christ's sakes, it's New Orleans, find a voodoo warrior and put a curse on them)
#5. My tax money should not pay to rebuild a 2 million dollar house, a sports stadium or a floating casino. Also, my tax money shouldn't go to rebuild a city that is under sea level. You wouldn't build your house on quicksand would you? You want to live below sea-level, do your country some good and join the Navy.
#6. Regardless what the Poverty Pimps Jessie Jackson and Al Sharpton want you to believe, The US Government didn't create the Hurricane as a way to eradicate the black people of New Orleans; (Neither did Russia as a way to destroy America). The US Government didn't cause global warming that caused the hurricane (We've been coming out of an ice age for over a million years).
#7. The government isn't responsible for giving you anything. This is the land of the free and the home of the brave, but you gotta work for what you want. McDonalds and Wal-Mart are always hiring, get a damn job and stop spooning off the people who are actually working for a living.
President Kennedy said it best... "Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country."
Thank you for allowing me to rant.
The following segment was taken from "Biker News", a site directed toward providing "bikers" information about their lifestyle.
The rant (I'm assuming) is from the site's editor.
I've been sitting here with my ass in a wad, wanting to speak out about the ******** going on in New Orleans.
For the people of New Orleans... First we would like to say, Sorry for your loss.
With that said, Lets go through a few hurricane rules: (Unlike an earthquake, we know it's coming)
#1. A mandatory evacuation means just that... Get the hell out. Don't blame the Government after they tell you to go. If they hadn't said anything, I can see the argument. They said get out... if you didn't, it's your fault, not theirs. (We don't want to hear it, even if you don't have a car, you can get out.)
#2. If there is an emergency, stock up on water and non-perishables. If you didn't do this, it's not the governments fault you're starving.
#2a. If you run out of food and water, find a store that has some. (Remember, shoes, TV's, DVD's and CD's are not edible. Leave them alone.)
#2b. If the local store is too looted of food or water, leave your neighbor's TV and stereo alone. (See # 2a) They worked hard to get their stuff. Just because they were smart enough to leave during a mandatory evacuation, doesn't give you the right to take their stuff... it's theirs, not yours.
#3. If someone comes in to help you, don't shoot at them and then complain no one is helping you. I'm not getting shot to help save some ******* who didn't leave when told to do so.
#4. If you are in your house that is completely under water, your belongings are probably too far gone for anyone to want them. If someone does want them, Let them have them and hopefully they'll die in the filth. Just leave! (For Christ's sakes, it's New Orleans, find a voodoo warrior and put a curse on them)
#5. My tax money should not pay to rebuild a 2 million dollar house, a sports stadium or a floating casino. Also, my tax money shouldn't go to rebuild a city that is under sea level. You wouldn't build your house on quicksand would you? You want to live below sea-level, do your country some good and join the Navy.
#6. Regardless what the Poverty Pimps Jessie Jackson and Al Sharpton want you to believe, The US Government didn't create the Hurricane as a way to eradicate the black people of New Orleans; (Neither did Russia as a way to destroy America). The US Government didn't cause global warming that caused the hurricane (We've been coming out of an ice age for over a million years).
#7. The government isn't responsible for giving you anything. This is the land of the free and the home of the brave, but you gotta work for what you want. McDonalds and Wal-Mart are always hiring, get a damn job and stop spooning off the people who are actually working for a living.
President Kennedy said it best... "Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country."
Thank you for allowing me to rant.
Mike Wilson
Well-Known Member
Regal One,
As far as (my take) on the "All Things Old, Become New Again":
No, Sir... It is not old by my standards, as it seems to have come full-circle!
There was an article in the Nashville Tennessean paper two weeks ago,
about our local government setting up relief, welcome and temporary employment
shelters/resource facilities in the Nashville area for Katrina Evacuees (as they
don't like to be called 'Refugees'). The temporary offices were set up to handle
approximately 250 people per day, at each center, for both employment, and
assistance for food, monies, and other aid.
The centers that were set up for employment assistance saw a peak of 40-
50 people a day. The centers that were set up to pass out the government
checks and food stamps had lines out the door, people sleeping on the sidewalk
for a week solid to get the free (to them) monies!
I don't, can't and won't feel sorry for someone who takes their $2,000 FEMA
card and goes to a "***** Bar" and blows it!
And in these desperate times, let me re-phrase the words of the late and
great JFK:
"Ask not what your country can do for you, but what can you do for yourself !"
My answer?
Get up off of your lazy arse, take this as the opportunity of a lifetime, take pride
in yourself, and get out there and make a name for yourself, make something
of yourself, and leave your family a legacy to be proud of. Get out there and
put some blood, sweat and tears into the rebuilding of your (and ours, as America)
Great City of New Orleans, and Biloxi!, MS. ( Let's not forget Biloxi)!
I don't care if you are black, white, yellow or brown.
Not to deny your Heritage, no more than I would care to be denied where my
ancestors are from (I have been called "Hillbilly" many times, and Proud of it)!
Let's just get out there, and everyone do their part, and rebuild our small
part of America, which, overall, will have a greater effect on us all!
Sorry to go too far off on this, but I feel much better, now!
Thank you all for listening to me!
As far as (my take) on the "All Things Old, Become New Again":
No, Sir... It is not old by my standards, as it seems to have come full-circle!
There was an article in the Nashville Tennessean paper two weeks ago,
about our local government setting up relief, welcome and temporary employment
shelters/resource facilities in the Nashville area for Katrina Evacuees (as they
don't like to be called 'Refugees'). The temporary offices were set up to handle
approximately 250 people per day, at each center, for both employment, and
assistance for food, monies, and other aid.
The centers that were set up for employment assistance saw a peak of 40-
50 people a day. The centers that were set up to pass out the government
checks and food stamps had lines out the door, people sleeping on the sidewalk
for a week solid to get the free (to them) monies!
I don't, can't and won't feel sorry for someone who takes their $2,000 FEMA
card and goes to a "***** Bar" and blows it!
And in these desperate times, let me re-phrase the words of the late and
great JFK:
"Ask not what your country can do for you, but what can you do for yourself !"
My answer?
Get up off of your lazy arse, take this as the opportunity of a lifetime, take pride
in yourself, and get out there and make a name for yourself, make something
of yourself, and leave your family a legacy to be proud of. Get out there and
put some blood, sweat and tears into the rebuilding of your (and ours, as America)
Great City of New Orleans, and Biloxi!, MS. ( Let's not forget Biloxi)!
I don't care if you are black, white, yellow or brown.
Not to deny your Heritage, no more than I would care to be denied where my
ancestors are from (I have been called "Hillbilly" many times, and Proud of it)!
Let's just get out there, and everyone do their part, and rebuild our small
part of America, which, overall, will have a greater effect on us all!
Sorry to go too far off on this, but I feel much better, now!
Thank you all for listening to me!
Mike Wilson
Well-Known Member
Just an Aside..
Tennessee is known as "The Volunteer State".
If you came here, either by way of Michigan (as I have, but both parents
born and raised in Tennessee), Mexico, or New Orleans or Mississippi, be
prepared to do some community service/volunteer work!
That is what has made our State so Great!...
Be prepared to be a part of it!
There will be no better feeling in the world!!!
If you can do this out of the goodness of your heart, then all I have to say
is "Welcome to America", and I'm "Proud to Know Ya!".
Tennessee is known as "The Volunteer State".
If you came here, either by way of Michigan (as I have, but both parents
born and raised in Tennessee), Mexico, or New Orleans or Mississippi, be
prepared to do some community service/volunteer work!
That is what has made our State so Great!...
Be prepared to be a part of it!
There will be no better feeling in the world!!!
If you can do this out of the goodness of your heart, then all I have to say
is "Welcome to America", and I'm "Proud to Know Ya!".
I read in the paper that some peoploe were taking that $2,000.00 and renting a limo to go out with the homies.
Exactly what I was against from the start.
Tom
Exactly what I was against from the start.
Tom
Michael Cacioppo
Well-Known Member
RegalOne, you're so insensative.............................., but correct.
