EddieS'04
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This is really assinine... see the link:angry:
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More crap from the chinese-hard drive trojans
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Thomas Rogers
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Doh...
TJR
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I think we need a law in the USA that requires all manufacturers to clearly indicate where their products are made and that they are fully responsible for any and all damages caused by the use of their products
To many american companies are using cheap chinese labor to manufacture products that most Americans beleive are made mostly in the USA. Then when something like this is discovered we are informed that the product was made in China or some other third-world country???
How many times has Mattel and Fisher-Price toy made in China been found to have lead paint, or some other dangerous defect. Now Taiwan is shipping new Mextor disk drives with trojan horses pre-installed on them and they blame mainland China.
I know I will never buy another Mextor drive, or purchase anything made by Mattel or Fisher-Price until they can show me that they have taken serious corrective action or stopped making their products in China.
Perhaps if we all just stopped buying the crap made in China someone will get the message.
...Rich
To many american companies are using cheap chinese labor to manufacture products that most Americans beleive are made mostly in the USA. Then when something like this is discovered we are informed that the product was made in China or some other third-world country???
How many times has Mattel and Fisher-Price toy made in China been found to have lead paint, or some other dangerous defect. Now Taiwan is shipping new Mextor disk drives with trojan horses pre-installed on them and they blame mainland China.
I know I will never buy another Mextor drive, or purchase anything made by Mattel or Fisher-Price until they can show me that they have taken serious corrective action or stopped making their products in China.
Perhaps if we all just stopped buying the crap made in China someone will get the message.
...Rich
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EddieS'04
In Memoriam 1950-2022
Rich,,sounds like you are agreeing with, Caymen..:lol:
I agree also. There is so much made in China though. We would, save alot of money for retirement if we did. Reason being Americans spend alot on stuff we can do without. We are definitly a consumer nation.
We would have more money for gas..
I agree also. There is so much made in China though. We would, save alot of money for retirement if we did. Reason being Americans spend alot on stuff we can do without. We are definitly a consumer nation.
We would have more money for gas..
Jason Revard
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especially toys from overseas that when swallowed react and turn into froms of date-rape drugs and what not.....i dont have any kids but if i do i wont buy them any foreign made toys...just lincoln logs for them
Rich Stern
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Rich, it's not like American companies don't make these "mistakes."
Chevy Corvair
Ford Pinto
Firestone tires
America Online (employee stole millions of screen names and passwords, sold them)
Checkfree (consumer database theft)
Union Carbide (Bhopal disaster)
Hooker Chemical and Plastics (Love Canal)
PG&E (Hinkley)
etc.
As long as we live in a relatively free capitalist system of economics, there will be profit-motivated shortcuts taken by people of low character. Accidents will follow. We need to be smart about regulatory consumer protection where needed, and hold the government accountable for enforcing the rules.
Chevy Corvair
Ford Pinto
Firestone tires
America Online (employee stole millions of screen names and passwords, sold them)
Checkfree (consumer database theft)
Union Carbide (Bhopal disaster)
Hooker Chemical and Plastics (Love Canal)
PG&E (Hinkley)
etc.
As long as we live in a relatively free capitalist system of economics, there will be profit-motivated shortcuts taken by people of low character. Accidents will follow. We need to be smart about regulatory consumer protection where needed, and hold the government accountable for enforcing the rules.
Thomas Rogers
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Add Sherwin Williams to your list, Rich, to the tune of $2.xB in cleanup last I hear.
TJR
TJR
Rich,
I agree that American companies have made so big mistakes...Nobody is immune to them. There are plenty of other big errors that are not on your list, and a few on ;your list I don't consider mistakes. ie: the Corvair for one. It was Ralph Nader who proclaimed the dangers of the swing axle on the Corvair, but never mentioned the VW Beetle, and a host of other rear engine imports that used identical designs, including the US Army's M151 Jeep ! All were safe if driven within their design parameters, just like most SUV's today, they are taking a bad rap because someone has another agenda and "Safety" works well with the general public.
My point is that we have the right to know where our products are being made and can then make our choice to buy them or not buy them. Too many American companies are using third-world counties to manufacture their products and then not monitoring the actual production.
As many times as toy manufacturers in China have been caught using lead paint, yet the American companies still do not put safeguards and procedure in place to insure that lead paint never enters the doors of these Chinese toy factories.
I think there is a big difference between a mistake or oversite than criminal negligence or definace of policies. Deliberately puting a trojan hourse virus on a harddrive is very different than designing a product that may have an unforseen flaw that results in a safety issue. The difference is in the deliberate an covert action vs an unforssen design flaw.
According to Mattel and Fisher-Price the Chinese manufacturers were aware that lead paint could not be used, however they continued to purchase leaded paint from sources without verifying that the paint was truely lead free. This is especially troubling after the first incident was discovered, an it was allowed to happen again and agian.
I'm sure Mattel and Fisher-Price layout the exact specification for each toy that the Chinese are making for them, but they claim that the Chinese manufacturers are changing the design and nobody is checking for that. The first time I can understand, but it just continues.
If these American manufaturers would stop using these Chinese companies who are ruining their repution, the Chinese government might be more interested in cleaning up their manufacturing industries before their economy goes down the tubes along with ours!
...Rich
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I agree that American companies have made so big mistakes...Nobody is immune to them. There are plenty of other big errors that are not on your list, and a few on ;your list I don't consider mistakes. ie: the Corvair for one. It was Ralph Nader who proclaimed the dangers of the swing axle on the Corvair, but never mentioned the VW Beetle, and a host of other rear engine imports that used identical designs, including the US Army's M151 Jeep ! All were safe if driven within their design parameters, just like most SUV's today, they are taking a bad rap because someone has another agenda and "Safety" works well with the general public.
My point is that we have the right to know where our products are being made and can then make our choice to buy them or not buy them. Too many American companies are using third-world counties to manufacture their products and then not monitoring the actual production.
As many times as toy manufacturers in China have been caught using lead paint, yet the American companies still do not put safeguards and procedure in place to insure that lead paint never enters the doors of these Chinese toy factories.
I think there is a big difference between a mistake or oversite than criminal negligence or definace of policies. Deliberately puting a trojan hourse virus on a harddrive is very different than designing a product that may have an unforseen flaw that results in a safety issue. The difference is in the deliberate an covert action vs an unforssen design flaw.
According to Mattel and Fisher-Price the Chinese manufacturers were aware that lead paint could not be used, however they continued to purchase leaded paint from sources without verifying that the paint was truely lead free. This is especially troubling after the first incident was discovered, an it was allowed to happen again and agian.
I'm sure Mattel and Fisher-Price layout the exact specification for each toy that the Chinese are making for them, but they claim that the Chinese manufacturers are changing the design and nobody is checking for that. The first time I can understand, but it just continues.
If these American manufaturers would stop using these Chinese companies who are ruining their repution, the Chinese government might be more interested in cleaning up their manufacturing industries before their economy goes down the tubes along with ours!
...Rich
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Johnny O
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Funny that China is running unbridled capitalism, a la the U.S. circa 1915, and our politicians are driving us more toward Socialism every day.
Kevin Lang
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Sad but true. Canada, with its socialism, is still superior to america under hillary.
Gavin Allan
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If we get Hillary, we'l have both her and socialism.
Not for me.
Not for me.
Mark K 2
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You should see how nice a "Hillary for President" sticker looks on the back window of a ST. Fits perfectly. Looks even better.
