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OT: Political Poll - Racist or Not Racist?
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<blockquote data-quote="Thomas Rogers" data-source="post: 886400" data-attributes="member: 60724"><p>Andy, that's the point. Who is to say that a so-called hate crime is any more or less hateful than the same crime presumably without the element of hate?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>If a thief calls an effemenate (sp?) man "fag" as he robs him then it is a hate crime with stiffer penalties. But if he calls the same person a "geek", or a "wimp", or a "bastard", then it probably won't be labled a hate crime. But presumable the former is somehow more reprehensible and hateful than the latter given our current climate.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>That's why TrainTrac says it goes to "thought police", and then as I said way above back to the intent of the words used by the offender. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I grew up in a generation where a lot of things were called: "gay", or guys used the term "fag" or "queer" to cut on their friends. It wasn't hate-filled at all. But, again, it seems WE don't get to define what it is that we mean when we create an image, or speak certain words.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Watching "Curb Your Enthusiam" season 6 right now, and Larry is getting in deep crap for repeating someone elses use of the N-word. Seems those overhearing him say it won't let him explain what he means and why he was saying it.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>TJR</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Thomas Rogers, post: 886400, member: 60724"] Andy, that's the point. Who is to say that a so-called hate crime is any more or less hateful than the same crime presumably without the element of hate? If a thief calls an effemenate (sp?) man "fag" as he robs him then it is a hate crime with stiffer penalties. But if he calls the same person a "geek", or a "wimp", or a "bastard", then it probably won't be labled a hate crime. But presumable the former is somehow more reprehensible and hateful than the latter given our current climate. That's why TrainTrac says it goes to "thought police", and then as I said way above back to the intent of the words used by the offender. I grew up in a generation where a lot of things were called: "gay", or guys used the term "fag" or "queer" to cut on their friends. It wasn't hate-filled at all. But, again, it seems WE don't get to define what it is that we mean when we create an image, or speak certain words. Watching "Curb Your Enthusiam" season 6 right now, and Larry is getting in deep crap for repeating someone elses use of the N-word. Seems those overhearing him say it won't let him explain what he means and why he was saying it. TJR [/QUOTE]
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