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OT: Standing Up For What's Right - Against Circuit City and the local Police
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<blockquote data-quote="Thomas Rogers" data-source="post: 731253" data-attributes="member: 60724"><p>Mike H said: </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>When I said "provide identification" I was talking about the physical act of showing proof of identification, as in showing a drivers license or other such papers. Sorry if I wasn't clear. So, yes, I see how you can think they are the same thing, but I didn't mean to talk about the same thing.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Also, note that you said two key things: "an officer has a lawful reason to question you", and "you give him your full name and date of birth".</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>As I said and you have said, giving someone your full name and date of birth is a way of identifying yourself (you saying who you are). As I was talking about "providing identification", I should have said "providing PROOF" of identification. For that, the police damn right better have a lawful reason to request that proof.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Others have said that you can be detained while proof of ID is obtained. Again, it seems to me, that the police better be charging you with something if that is the case.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I guess what I am saying is that if there are those out there that think it is okay to be walking down the street, have a policemen come up to you on a whim and say: "Who are you?", and then possibly follow that up with "Can you show me some ID", then all I have to say is WTF.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>TJR</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Thomas Rogers, post: 731253, member: 60724"] Mike H said: When I said "provide identification" I was talking about the physical act of showing proof of identification, as in showing a drivers license or other such papers. Sorry if I wasn't clear. So, yes, I see how you can think they are the same thing, but I didn't mean to talk about the same thing. Also, note that you said two key things: "an officer has a lawful reason to question you", and "you give him your full name and date of birth". As I said and you have said, giving someone your full name and date of birth is a way of identifying yourself (you saying who you are). As I was talking about "providing identification", I should have said "providing PROOF" of identification. For that, the police damn right better have a lawful reason to request that proof. Others have said that you can be detained while proof of ID is obtained. Again, it seems to me, that the police better be charging you with something if that is the case. I guess what I am saying is that if there are those out there that think it is okay to be walking down the street, have a policemen come up to you on a whim and say: "Who are you?", and then possibly follow that up with "Can you show me some ID", then all I have to say is WTF. TJR [/QUOTE]
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