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Thomas Rogers

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Or as Samuel Jackson would say:



"I'm getting sick and tired of these &^*#! kids on this #@$*& plane!"



I hope the link below works for you all because I suspect this will be interesting to discuss. There is a video on the page (upper right), or you can read the story:





 
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But Penland denied that she had ever threatened the flight attendant or that she or Garren had posed a threat to the security or comfort of the flight.



Who besides the attendant and Penland really knows if there was a threat? Sounds like they all need a chill pill.



A chattering / screaming kid on a plane can be a little aggravating, but they are just kids. What are you going to do? Some parents wouldn't make their little darlings be quiet for anyone or anything. It's just how it is and you can't do anything about it.
 
There are always stories about kids on planes, in movie theatres, etc... My take is if you go to a movie that is PG13 or under there will be kids there as most of those movies are geared towards kids so expect it. If you go to a family dinner place expect it. On a plane it might not be fun, but you may have to just deal with it. As a parent, I dont take my daughter to nice or expensive places as I feel these arent good places for kids and people pay a lot for an adult dinner at a nice place. What will my child get out of a $100 dinner? Also she shouldnt be going to adult movies (not the X kind, but simply adult movies)There are places for kids and places for adults. It should be that way. Unfortunately there are some places where you just have to deal with it. And in some situations people who dont care about those around them. But most of the time, if you arent enjoying the crying kid, the parent is having an even harder time dealing with that kid and knowing it is probably upsetting other. I think people just have a problem these days of not caring about the people around them and thats what leads to most of these stories. and now this post is way to long...
 
"I'm four years old."



From Bill Cosby, Himself - Little Jeffrey. I remember his name, not because he said, "I'm four years old," but because Jeffrey's mother said his name all 2500 miles of the trip.

 
Sorry, but I would hope the parents would try to control their screaming kid. I hate it when the kid is screaming its head off (or singing, making needless noises, etc.) and the parents act like they don't even hear it.



I would imagine that very young babies cannot be taught not to scream, but toddlers should have some discipline and not be allowed to make offensive noises in public.
 
Not being on the plane makes it impossible to pass judgment and be fair about it.



I would venture to say that there is no one at this site that flies more than I do. I fly 5 days a week 2 to 4 flights a day.



That said, I have seen kids drive others absolutely to the brink of a nervous breakdown. It ranges from excitement to anger to apprehension.



As I read and understand the law, (which I know well), just being a bit of a pain is not an issue. However, each airline can do what they want to a large degree and it has nothing to do with the law.



So, in this case, if the child drove her nuts and she was able to convince to the pilot that there was a serious concern as she had been threatened, the pilot would have no choice but to remove them from the flight as in the event it did become an issue once the plane took off it would then be on him...



My guess, the flight attendant over-reacted. But,,,, the Continental policy will protect her.
 
Everybody seems to be leaving out two major concerns. Or at least major to me in what I saw on the news. The flight attendant suggested to the mother that they carry 'special' medicine on the plane for children and that the mother should give the child some of this 'special' medicine. Supposedly it is childrens Benadryl(sp). Secondly the news is reporting that all the other passengers support the mother and heard no threats of any kind from the mother and the flight attendant was out of line.
 
The planes do NOT carry special medicines. The flight attendant suggested that the mother give the child the medicine.



No airline will offer anything other than aspirin, even then, it is at the weakest form available..
 
I do understand the problems with children on an airplane, I have been punished with squalling and screaming kids on a flight and when you are trapped on a plane and the parents absolutely do nothing. That being said, my 4 year old has flown 3 times, 2 times across the country and I have been complemented each time for how well he behaves on the flight. I WILL not force my misbehaving child on anybody else, that is rude and crass and disrespectful to others. My son behaves because it is expected.



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With other passengers supporting the mother.I think the flight attendant must had a big hangover and was out of line...
 
I can sympathize with the stewardess. Flying from Chicago to ATL a few weeks ago there was a kid across the isle from me (with her brother who couldn't have been more than 2 years older) and she kept yelling and making noises, and it pretty much bothered me the entire flight. Her parents were sitting together behind the kids just having a conversation...
 
I can se the sequel coming...



First it was snakes on a plane,



Now get ready for



TODDLERS ON A PLANE!:eek:



Man, I need to reread these multi-day posts.

You've already covered that.:(
 
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Then there is the kid(sometimes and adult) behind you that is kicking the back of the seat with it in the upright position.... Argh.........
 
Even more horrific: You are 6'-3" and 300 lbs, sitting by the window next to a large lady with two toddlers crawling all over her. Then, the clown in the seat in front of you reclines his seat all the way and jambs your legs into a complete clamp-down for the remainder of the 3000 mile flight... :eek:
 
Gavin, I know the feeling. On a flight from Vancouver, BC to Chicago, I was next to the window. I'm 6'4" 270. The people sitting next to me, a large man, and a little lady. The lady said she wanted the isle, meaning the other guy was sitting in the middle. If they charge double on United, he should have paid it. With the person in front of me reclining, and his arm hanging over the armrest, and the window having that curve that it does, it was a very uncomfortable flight and I was sore when we landed.
 
On the return leg of our honeymoon, my wife and I found ourselves sitting middle and aisle seat nexr to an extremely large man stuffed into the window seat. He put the seat belt up across his lap and folded his hands over it to make it look latched, but the ends didn't meet!



During the flight my wife snuggled up against me. I enjoyed the feel of her against me, but then she started pressing into me. I realized she wasn't doing anything, so I looked, and found that the guy in the next seat had raised the armrest and expanded into her seat, pushing her into me! He was pointedly looking the other way, and I started to say something to him, but my wife pleaded with me to leave it alone, so I did. I raised our armrest to compensate, and she managed a little space between her and him. I thought it was extremely rude.:angry:
 
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Dreman, It makes you want to say, "Hey $%#^, you only paid for one seat, not one and a half". My wife would have done the same as yours.
 
As I read and understand the law, (which I know well), just being a bit of a pain is not an issue.

So you can't shoot them then, huh?:p j/k

My kids are teens now, but they've been flying since they were infants. Never a problem, but the ex and I would do what we could to keep them quiet. We didn't like noise and fuss any more than anybody else. Some Benadryl to chill them out, the other thing is that babies will cry when the plane is taking off and landing because their ears hurt from the pressure changes and they don't know to swallow a few times like adults do to pop their ears. The trick is to give the kid a bottle during takeoff and landing. Gum if they're older.

 
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