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<blockquote data-quote="Thomas Rogers" data-source="post: 545538" data-attributes="member: 60724"><p>Caymen says:</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Now who is being naive? Caymen, others, you guys have totally missed one of my subtle points. Complaining about how they can use their money is pointless. That's right, it's THEIR money, not yours.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Why do I say it's THEIR money...because 30 or 40 years of entitlement programs have brought up several generations in that area and others in the country such that the main source of income is from the government and social programs. That is why you see the Mom with 6 kids wondering "who is going to take care of my babies". </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>We have been giving to many of these people all their lives, with few strings attached to buy whatever they wanted and live however they want. When I say few strings attached, we didn't setup programs that assured they made good decisions, and did helpful things that would make the assistance a temporary "hand-up", not a generational "hand-out".</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Now, when these people have been displaced, it seems its time to give them $2000 and some tough love and say "no PSP or beer for you!"</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>A few decades too late my friends, and not appropriate timing, IMHO.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Get them back on their feet and through this disaster, THEN let's talk about how we should perform some real social program re-engineering.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The govt and its social programs of the past several decades created this entitlement mentality, and the govt, through the will of the people, can change to remove it. But realize that this entitlement mentality started long ago and we aren't going to change it overnight.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>TJR</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Thomas Rogers, post: 545538, member: 60724"] Caymen says: Now who is being naive? Caymen, others, you guys have totally missed one of my subtle points. Complaining about how they can use their money is pointless. That's right, it's THEIR money, not yours. Why do I say it's THEIR money...because 30 or 40 years of entitlement programs have brought up several generations in that area and others in the country such that the main source of income is from the government and social programs. That is why you see the Mom with 6 kids wondering "who is going to take care of my babies". We have been giving to many of these people all their lives, with few strings attached to buy whatever they wanted and live however they want. When I say few strings attached, we didn't setup programs that assured they made good decisions, and did helpful things that would make the assistance a temporary "hand-up", not a generational "hand-out". Now, when these people have been displaced, it seems its time to give them $2000 and some tough love and say "no PSP or beer for you!" A few decades too late my friends, and not appropriate timing, IMHO. Get them back on their feet and through this disaster, THEN let's talk about how we should perform some real social program re-engineering. The govt and its social programs of the past several decades created this entitlement mentality, and the govt, through the will of the people, can change to remove it. But realize that this entitlement mentality started long ago and we aren't going to change it overnight. TJR [/QUOTE]
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