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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Richard L" data-source="post: 982729" data-attributes="member: 52972">That's suprising.  I have tried that technique with all my round-lace shoes and it really does work.  I am abolutely stunned that such a seemingly insignificant change in the procedure (going under the loop instead of over would make such a difference but it does.I have some round-lace shoes that I hate to wear because they always become untied...like about every 30 minutes.  When I remember to use this technique, they stay tied until I untie them.  :supercool::haveabeer::banana:...Rich</blockquote>