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<blockquote data-quote="TrainTrac" data-source="post: 589368" data-attributes="member: 55399"><p>How many crimes in Canada involved guns? I would think that it would be 0 because they're not legal to own, right?<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>It's a fact that crime rates in America are lower in states and localities where law-abiding citizens are able to legally own a gun. They're even lower in areas where CCW is legal. When you were researching your statistics about higher murder, and robbery rates in the U.S., did they state how many involved guns? You can't just put forth a blanket statistic as a justification for banning guns without showing how many involved guns. And of those that did involve guns, did the criminal legally obtain and own said firearm? I would be willing to be that the answer to that in 99.9% of the cases would be NO. So do you honestly believe that if guns were banned in the U.S. that gun-related crime rates would diminish? Nope, because criminals are still going to obtain them, by any means available.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>How about finding a statistic on how many crimes were prevented or stopped by a law-abiding citizen legally carrying a gun? You don't want to look that up, because it doesn't support your view.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Statistics show that in states with more stringent gun ownership laws, and in localities with more stringinent laws or that have banned guns altogether; crime rates have risen. I don't have them readily at hand, but I can find them, or I'm sure that someone else will post them here.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>And you're right, murder and robbery per capita rates are higher in the U.S. The key words in the statistic you posted were "per capita". So of course the rates are higher, because we have more people in the U.S. Duh!:wacko:</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Perhaps if Canadians were allowed to own a firearm, and obtain a Concealed Carry permit, the rape statistics would drop...:huh:</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="TrainTrac, post: 589368, member: 55399"] How many crimes in Canada involved guns? I would think that it would be 0 because they're not legal to own, right?;) It's a fact that crime rates in America are lower in states and localities where law-abiding citizens are able to legally own a gun. They're even lower in areas where CCW is legal. When you were researching your statistics about higher murder, and robbery rates in the U.S., did they state how many involved guns? You can't just put forth a blanket statistic as a justification for banning guns without showing how many involved guns. And of those that did involve guns, did the criminal legally obtain and own said firearm? I would be willing to be that the answer to that in 99.9% of the cases would be NO. So do you honestly believe that if guns were banned in the U.S. that gun-related crime rates would diminish? Nope, because criminals are still going to obtain them, by any means available. How about finding a statistic on how many crimes were prevented or stopped by a law-abiding citizen legally carrying a gun? You don't want to look that up, because it doesn't support your view. Statistics show that in states with more stringent gun ownership laws, and in localities with more stringinent laws or that have banned guns altogether; crime rates have risen. I don't have them readily at hand, but I can find them, or I'm sure that someone else will post them here. And you're right, murder and robbery per capita rates are higher in the U.S. The key words in the statistic you posted were "per capita". So of course the rates are higher, because we have more people in the U.S. Duh!:wacko: Perhaps if Canadians were allowed to own a firearm, and obtain a Concealed Carry permit, the rape statistics would drop...:huh: [/QUOTE]
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