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This is not too surprising. PA's Ed Rendell has been criticized for having his driver run the Cadillac up into the 90s, especially when the PSP are escorting him. On one hand, the guy is busy and needs to be places yesterday. On the other hand, Corzine was going to a meeting between Rutgers and Imus. It doesn't seem like a matter of state priority.



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New Report Drops Bombshell in Corzine Crash

By TOM HESTER Jr.

AP



TRENTON, N.J. (April 19) - It was an ominous tale - an erratic driver in a red pickup racing wildly along the nation's busiest toll road sends the governor's sport utility vehicle careening into a guard rail.



But that story, relayed hours after Gov. Jon S. Corzine was critically injured, has been debunked by a new state police report detailing how his driver was dashing with emergency lights flashing at 91 mph in a 65 mph zone. The alleged erratic driver wasn't a villain but a young man trying to get out of the way of the governor's onrushing SUV.



Corzine's driver, State Trooper Robert Rasinski, 34, has also come under scrutiny for allowing the governor to ride without a seat belt, a violation of state law. Corzine remained in critical condition on a ventilator Wednesday with 11 broken ribs and a severely broken leg; Rasinski wore a seat belt and walked away from the crash.



State Police Superintendent Col. Rick Fuentes defended his initial praise of the trooper, whom he said "should be commended for his valiant attempt to avoid this catastrophe" immediately after last week's accident.



"In some respects you have the fog of war there in the beginning," Fuentes said. "You have a very major event. You have a lot of different variables in that event. The investigation is at its very earliest phase and things are going to change."



State Police Capt. Al Della Fave said he didn't know if Rasinski requested Corzine fasten his seat belt, but said a state police review board will decide the trooper's responsibility for both his driving speed and Corzine's failure to wear a seat belt.



Rasinski hasn't returned repeated telephone calls made by The Associated Press, including on Wednesday. He could be disciplined if the board determines the crash was preventable, Fuentes said. Della Fave declined to elaborate on how possible discipline might work.



Corzine was heading to the governor's mansion April 12 for a meeting with Don Imus and the Rutgers University women's basketball team when he crashed on the Garden State Parkway north of Atlantic City. His SUV was in the left lane with its emergency lights flashing when a red pickup tried to get out of its way.



But the pickup's right wheels went onto the grassy highway shoulder, and the driver overcorrected, swerving back on the road. That set off a chain reaction: A white pickup truck swerved to avoid the red truck, struck Corzine's sport utility vehicle and sent it careening into a guard rail.



Officials have said the 20-year-old driver of the red pickup wouldn't be charged because he didn't know he caused the accident. State motor vehicle officials said he got his driver's license last year, and state police said his inexperience contributed to the perception he was driving erratically.



The driver of the white vehicle also wasn't charged.



Fuentes said the governor's executive protection unit is trained to move through traffic by increasing their speed and activating flashing lights when necessary.



The driver has discretion over the traveling speed and when to activate emergency lights, Fuentes said. He said the investigation showed that the governor did not ask Rasinski to speed up.



In non-emergencies, the governor's drivers should obey the traffic laws "in the interest of safety both to the occupants of their car and the public," Fuentes said.



Rasinski, who has been part of the state police executive protecti
 
Doing 90 and not wearing a seatbelt. What a *******. And people actually voted for this guy?
 
Wasting the tax payers money with his agenda, endangering them on the highway, not wearing a seatbelt because the laws don't apply to him, and now sucking up health care dollars from the public, too.



Nice going, guv. Maybe next time we can save you the pain and trouble by dropping off large stacks of cash at the governer's mansion. This way, you can be fleecing the public without endangering yourself or anyone else.
 
Just curious--Does anyone know how they determined that he was going 91? I assume there must have been some sort of recording mechanism on the vehicle tracking such things? Otherwise, if it was one of those "skid mark evalatuion" things, I wouldn't think that they're accurate to the ability to narrow in on a specific MPH, rather than a range...
 
The way it works, if you are a high enough official you can go as fast as you want or dare to.;):( I say this because back when Jimmy Carter was first running for President he was here in Henderson, KY. Between his flight in, getting to the parade and getting to the dinner the Secret Service people had the group traveling at least 30 or 40 miles an hour over the speed limit. Most but not all cross roads were blocked though. It is all in who you are and who you know!:D
 
The onboard computer measured the speed at 91 mph, 5 secs. prior to impact...
 
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i work for the state of NJ and for 15 years of that i was a driver.



i cant tell you how many times on the states highways

i was passed by kane,florio and whitmans state police caravans



each and every time everyone of them was doing 90+, they would go by me

so fast that the state vehicle i was driving would actually sway as they went past.



so its not just corzines that was doing it, its just that the law of averages finally

caught up with one of them
 
I read elsewhere a few days ago, when a state official was asked about Corzine not wearing a seatbelt, he said something to the effect that the governor is not real open to suggestion. *cough*



Typical limousine liberal. Laws are for the little people but not me because I'm smarter, better, and special.



Oh, and I live in Fast Eddie Rendell's state. Hey, I didn't vote for him.
 
Typical limousine liberal. Laws are for the little people but not me because I'm smarter, better, and special.

Huh? That's not a 'liberal' characteristic. That's a negative characteristic of anyone in power--liberal, conservative, or other.



I find it interesting how such a significant number of the more conservative people on this site take any negative characteristic a person may have, and label it to be a 'liberal' one. You're too poor? It's because you're liberal. You're too rich? It's because you're liberal. Your kid has six toes? It's because you're liberal. Your feet smell like cheese? It's becuase you're liberal. Gimme a break!!!
 
Huh? That's not a 'liberal' characteristic. That's a negative characteristic of anyone in power--liberal, conservative, or other.

Partly true, but you see it more in liberals than you do conservatives.
 
Partly true, but you see it more in liberals than you do conservatives.

I whole-heartedly disagree. I see this primarily coming from Republicans and other conservatives. In fact, "Laws are for the little people but not me because I'm smarter, better, and special" pretty well sums up the entire MO of the current administration.
 
I whole-heartedly disagree.

Of course you do. Who in teh current administration is breaking the law? I will point out that it was the new Republican Congress in 1995 that passed a law saying that Congress had to abide by the same laws they passed for everybody else. Dems didn't do that for 40 years, nor did they want to.

Too many state and local examples of Democrats in Pennsylvania for me to list.

BillV, you've got to quit getting all your news and facts from the union newsletter.
 
The Difference between Liberals, Conservatives and Texans



Question: You're walking down a deserted street with your wife and two

small children. Suddenly, a dangerous looking man with a huge knife

comes around the corner, locks eyes with you, screams obscenities,

raises the knife, and charges. You are carrying a Glock .40 and you are

an expert shot. You have mere seconds before he reaches you and your

family. What do you do?



Liberal Answer:



Well, that's not enough information to answer the question! Does the

man look poor or oppressed? Have I ever done anything to him that would

inspire him to attack? Could we run away? What does my wife think? What

about the kids? Could I possibly swing the gun like a club and knock

the knife out of his hand? What does the law say about this situation?

Does the Glock have an appropriate safety built into it? Why am I

carrying a loaded gun and what kind of message does this send to

society and my children? Is it possible he'd be happy with just killing

me? Does he definitely want to kill me or would he just be content to

wound me? If I were to grab his knees and hold on, could my family get

away while he was stabbing me? This is all so confusing! I need to

debate this with some friends for a few days to try to come to a

conclusion.

_________________________________________________________



Conservative Answer:



BANG!



__________________________________________________________________



Texan's Answer:



BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! click... (sounds

of reloading).



Wife: "Sweetheart, he looks like he's still moving, what do you kids

think?"



Son: "Mom's right Dad, I saw it too..."



BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! click....

(sounds of reloading).



Daughter: "Nice group, Daddy! Were those the Winchester Silver Tips?"

;)
 
Tom T,



Your answer, esp. the part about the Texan, reminds me of a skit by the

comedian Ron White (Blue Collar Comedy Tour). He says, " I'm from

Texas. And proud to be from Texas. While most states are trying to abolish

the death penalty, we're puttin' in an "Express Lane". If you're in the State of

Texas and you kill someone, we'll Kill You Back!":D:D:D
 
Who in teh current administration is breaking the law?

Not enough space here for the list.

Dems didn't do that for 40 years,

Wait a second--you're sayiing the Dems have been in power for 40 years? If you're this clueless on recent US history, then it explains a lot about how you could have the political opinions you do...



TomT--What a typical bunch of conservative hooey. Let's turn the tables on that story, and show a far more typical scenario...







Question: You enter a store. You see a large man with an even larger knife and blood on his clothing. He notices you, locks eyes with you, and starts coming toward you. You are carrying a Glock .40 and you are an expert shot. You have mere seconds before he reaches you and your family. What do you do?



Conservative Answer:



BANG!



__________________________________________________________________



Texan's Answer:



BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! click... (sounds

of reloading).



Wife: "Sweetheart, he looks like he's still moving, what do you kids

think?"



Son: "Mom's right Dad, I saw it too..."



BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! click....

(sounds of reloading).



Daughter: "Nice group, Daddy! Were those the Winchester Silver Tips?"

__________________________________________________________________



Liberal answer:



Wait for him to reach the counter, where he puases to say, "Hi! Welcome to Floyd's Butcher Shop! What can I get for you?" Purchase a few steaks. Go home and enjoy a cookout with your family.
 
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I believe the 40 years he was talking about is 1955-1995 when the Dems held the House of Representatives for 40 years.



There were a few times the Senate went Republican but the House was a Dem lock for a long time.
 

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