DavfeG New Member with '03 XLT w/ Issues to Solve

[DavfeG]

Hello, I'm Dave, an old timer in RI that has bought and sold, worked on and repaired 100+ cars starting at 15 yrs old with the one that got away, a '39 Chevy 2 door with 327 4 barrel and stick shift. Traded with money (mine) for a POS '63 Ford Falcon Sprint 260 V8, that started my journey to learning to repair cars. So I recently bought the '03 based on photos and videos and hoped for the best that a truck with a new Pennsylvania inspection sticker would be ready to go. My son had previously owned one and I liked everything about Sport Tracs: sunroof, 4WD, rear window going down, AC, keyless entry and nice looks. Well PA inspection apparently lets you through with no emergency brake and ABS problems. The cruise didn't work and I've got to deal with axle and pinion seals etc. So a little at a time and I've joined this site in hopes of some help, same as I did when I recently purchased a 1990 Cadillac Allante.

I started with the clunk in the drivers door where the rivet on the door holding the door lock mechanism on failed and that took only 20 minutes, so onto the broken and cracked cruise control buttons. Seemed like an easy job and it was but when finished bolting things up the horn blew continuously. What a bummer. I've looked here and on line for a solution but have not found an answer so far. I will post a picture of my truck and put more on the forum about my horn/air bag issues. By the way, the silver '02 Toyota Highlander next to the ST, that I bought new, and I love Toyotas, is what the Sport Trac is supposed to replace. But...until I can get the bugs out of it, I continue to drive this dependable 4 cyl with 225K on it which doesn't sit well with the Mrs. By the way the ST has 238K on it, but I always figure if it made it this far then it must have a few more miles left to enjoy it. Wish me luck on this new adventure of repairs and enjoyment, I hope......Davfe G

 

[dvdswan]

Welcome to the site.

 

[SwampTrac]

Welcome to the forum. Great looking truck!

 

[Todd Z]

Welcome, She has miles on her, Take care.

 

[Pat in RI]

Hi Dave. Another RI er in the forum. I have an 03 XLT. I replaced the cruise control buttons on mine. Make sure that the side bolts are positioned and tightened correctly. I'd just quickly redo it and check the position of the airbag assembly. Good luck and maybe we will see each other on the Rhodes of our small state.

 

[Sarah93003]

Welcome Dave.

 

[Larry Holmes]

Hello, I'm Dave, an old timer in RI that has bought and sold, worked on and repaired 100+ cars starting at 15 yrs old with the one that got away, a '39 Chevy 2 door with 327 4 barrel and stick shift. Traded with money (mine) for a POS '63 Ford Falcon Sprint 260 V8, that started my journey to learning to repair cars. So I recently bought the '03 based on photos and videos and hoped for the best that a truck with a new Pennsylvania inspection sticker would be ready to go. My son had previously owned one and I liked everything about Sport Tracs: sunroof, 4WD, rear window going down, AC, keyless entry and nice looks. Well PA inspection apparently lets you through with no emergency brake and ABS problems. The cruise didn't work and I've got to deal with axle and pinion seals etc. So a little at a time and I've joined this site in hopes of some help, same as I did when I recently purchased a 1990 Cadillac Allante.

I started with the clunk in the drivers door where the rivet on the door holding the door lock mechanism on failed and that took only 20 minutes, so onto the broken and cracked cruise control buttons. Seemed like an easy job and it was but when finished bolting things up the horn blew continuously. What a bummer. I've looked here and on line for a solution but have not found an answer so far. I will post a picture of my truck and put more on the forum about my horn/air bag issues. By the way, the silver '02 Toyota Highlander next to the ST, that I bought new, and I love Toyotas, is what the Sport Trac is supposed to replace. But...until I can get the bugs out of it, I continue to drive this dependable 4 cyl with 225K on it which doesn't sit well with the Mrs. By the way the ST has 238K on it, but I always figure if it made it this far then it must have a few more miles left to enjoy it. Wish me luck on this new adventure of repairs and enjoyment, I hope......Davfe G

Good luck!

 

[DavfeG]

Hi Dave. Another RI er in the forum. I have an 03 XLT. I replaced the cruise control buttons on mine. Make sure that the side bolts are positioned and tightened correctly. I'd just quickly redo it and check the position of the airbag assembly. Good luck and maybe we will see each other on the Rhodes of our small state.

Thanks for the reply Pat. I don't use Cruise too often but the buttons were broke and it looks a lot nicer. The "on" button wasn't working before I changed them and cruise still isn't working but I'd still like to fix it. Any ideas on what I should pursue under the hood?

 

[Pat in RI]

Hi Dave. Did you install a new harness with the cruise control buttons? Also did you install a new BLACK cutoff switch located on the end of the master cylinder. The old switch could be defective and will not allow the cruise to engage. Do the usual fuse checks. If you need parts, Pick and Pull in Johnstown has a few decent Gen ! Sports Tracs with the cruise control modules, but replace that switch first. Amazon has a lot of them with good ratings.

 

[Cruzinit]

My cruise would work intermittently. The rubber on the buttons were shot, replaced with Amazon cheapies. I used the exisitng wiring in the steering wheel. just has to be very gentle using a small flatheat screwdriver to pry the connectors up. Still intermittent. Found this Diagnostic.

*cruise control self test*

Enter self-test diagnostics by depressing the speed control OFF switch while turning the ignition key ON, making sure the engine does not start and is not running. The speed control indicator on the instrument panel
will flash once to indicate that speed control module entered the diagnostic mode. Five additional flashes at this point indicate a defective speed control servo. Release the OFF switch.
Press the remaining switches in this sequence: ON, RESUME, COAST and SET/ACCEL.
If the ON switch is not depressed within five seconds after entering the diagnostics mode, the module times out and the procedure must be started over.
The speed control indicator lamp will flash as each switch is depressed. Press each switch in the sequence immediately after the indicator light goes out for the previous switch.
NOTE: There will be a slight delay when the last button is pressed and the lamp flashes.

A lamp flash with the last button (SET/ACCEL) indicates that the static test passed. If the lamp does not flash with the last button and there are no additional flashes of the lamp, the switch is defective.
If the lamp does not flash with the last button, and additional flashes occur, follow the chart below for trouble codes:

2 flashes - BPP defective, circuit is defective, brake applied, CPP switch or jumper (if equipped).

3 flashes - deactivator switch is open or circuit defective.

4 flashes - vehicle speed signal is out of range or circuit is defective

Immediately (.25 second delay) after the static test, the speed control servo does a dynamic test by automatically actuating the throttle lever from 8 mm (0.315 in) to 12 mm (0.472 in) of travel from the idle position. During the dynamic throttle pull, observe throttle movement to witness any binding or sticking of the speed control cable and correct connection of speed control cable to throttle lever. Make sure the throttle returns to the idle position

That was cool, verified all buttons worked and systems are a go.
Using forscan I tested the brake PID and they looked good. But i could not find a PID for the brake Pressure switch.

Youtube search easy test pressure switch should have continuity in default position. No Continuity.
Saw another guy on youtube, remove the switch, banging the table until it showed continutiy.
I sprayed brake clean into the hole, banged it on a cloth covered table, checked, nothing.
Cleaned it again, banged a little harder on the sides and bottom, Checked Bingo Continuity.
Cleand one more time for good measure, Popped it back in the ST, We are Cruzinit baby