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<blockquote data-quote="Nelson Atwell" data-source="post: 680516" data-attributes="member: 59102"><p>Regarding that firewall quote -- that is the key right there. Toyota puts thought into the way they design a vehicle. There is no inefficiency. Compare that to even the most modern Fords. Look under the hood and each model is unique. Further, they have dozens of hoses and wires exposed. Finally, we have situations where you either have to drill a hole or lift an engine from its mounts to change a spark plug. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>They are cutting corners on design, and then the dealers and owners have to spend all this extra time dealing with their crappy design job. There gets a point where I was -- so fed up that I traded the vehicle for something new. I remember "R" being so proud of "his" redesigned ST. Well, I have never driven one, but how are you guys liking it, and have you compared it to a Tacoma or a Tundra? I seem to recall a few have already traded their '07s for something else. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite3" alt=":(" title="Frown :(" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":(" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Nelson Atwell, post: 680516, member: 59102"] Regarding that firewall quote -- that is the key right there. Toyota puts thought into the way they design a vehicle. There is no inefficiency. Compare that to even the most modern Fords. Look under the hood and each model is unique. Further, they have dozens of hoses and wires exposed. Finally, we have situations where you either have to drill a hole or lift an engine from its mounts to change a spark plug. They are cutting corners on design, and then the dealers and owners have to spend all this extra time dealing with their crappy design job. There gets a point where I was -- so fed up that I traded the vehicle for something new. I remember "R" being so proud of "his" redesigned ST. Well, I have never driven one, but how are you guys liking it, and have you compared it to a Tacoma or a Tundra? I seem to recall a few have already traded their '07s for something else. :( [/QUOTE]
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