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Joe Rampino

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As the subject says, "Greetings from China". I left Boston at 6 AM on Thursday, and arrived in Shanghai at 2 PM on Friday. I'll be here a couple of weeks. Still no Sport Tracs on the highways. Plenty of buicks and VW's though.



I just got back from a late night supper. Went out for Chinese. :lol:



I'll be here for a couple of weeks. Hope to post some pictures soon.
 
Rampo-- that sounds NEAT! Looking forward to the pics and your description of the sweet and sour chicken!



Hey Todd-- there's another suggestion for forum headings: "Where do you post on MyST from?" or maybe "MyST World Travelers".



I love Nelson's pics and stories. I feel like I am not only driving a cool vehicle, but I am also hanging out with smart people who can teach me something!
 
When you come home do us all a favor and don't bring back any lead paint, SARS, Birdflu or whatever else that country has going on at that time. Thanks. I'm sure we all would like that stuff to stay there. :D
 
Greeting Rampo! Out for Chinese? Did it taste like cat? LOL!



Be safe and have a good time.



Say "Hi" to all the American jobs that are there now.
 
Don't get me going with the outsourcing. I've been to China a number of times, and It's becoming clear to me that I'm here to train my replacements. It's just short term thinking as we sell out American jobs for short term profits. I have seen my co-workers lose their jobs one by one to a country that has nothing but disdain for Americans. My company claims that they need to utilize, (exploit) the slave labor force in China in order to remain competitive. We're hiring 4 Chinese engineers for the the cost of one of me, (and all of them will work 12-16 hour days because if they don't, there's 10 more Chinese waiting who will). I predict that when we fully ousource our product, once known for quality, to a country that doesn't care about quality, our company's good reputation will turn to crap as our customers find out that they just paid a million dollars for Chinese junk. And where are all the profits in China going? Oh, I don't know. Certainly not to the workers. Could it be, they need the funds to build up their military? Now I've depressed myself. :(

Time to go get another Tsing Tao. (The Budweiser of Chinese beer)..
 
Went out for Chinese.:lol:



I always wondered. If a Chinese couple moves to the USA and they want to go out for dinner, if they say lets go out to dinner, does that mean they automatically go out for Chinese food unless the say something else?



Chinese Man "Lets go out to dinner"

Chinese woman "OK"



They go to the House of Hunan.



Chinese man "Lets go get Mexican food"

Chinese woman "Sounds good, lets go to the Mexican rest."



I don't really know.





Tom
 
Caymen,



Most Chinese people would gag at the food served in the typical Chinese restaurant in America.



If you have a chance, take a look at how the workers eat when on break. They typically fill a bowl, and I mean, FILL a bowl with rice, then they put some vegetables and a couple pieces of fried or boiled meat (sans sauce) on the top. Very bland...mostly rice, vegetables and a couple of small pieces of meat.



TJR
 
TJR,



My cousin is married to a girl from China. I know what they eat.



Look at the humor in the comment I posted and not the actual scenerio. I could have said Mexican, Indian, German, or Italian. I said Chinese because of the joke he posted about going out for Chinese food while in China.



As for you saying the Chinese bland food, you could not be more wrong. Those Chinese peppers she grows in the back yard are far from being bland. If my mouth was not wet, it would have caught fire after eating one of those peppers. I do know that many of the employees in a Chinese restraunt are here illegally and are given a place to live, food to eat, and some money to send home. Again, I know this because my cousin is married to a girl from China. I asked her why doesn't she work for a Chinese restraunt and she told me the way it works. They would never hire her because they pay so little and she does not owe them anything. Once they work long enough to pay back the costs it took to bring them here, then they can quit. Usually, it takes about 18 to 24 months to pay them back. The bland food may be given to them to keep the costs low.



All that other "funky" food she eats, none of it is bland in the slightest. Freeze dried baby eels are far from being bland.





Tom
 
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Rampo,



The reason for so many Buicks is because GM has a Buick plant in Chengdu. VW most likely has one somewhere also..



And all the money goes to politicians and military. They're the only ones you see driving around in big cars over there.
 
Caymen, I was trying to start a conversation, not a debate. Yes, your comments were "Seinfeld-like" funny (Do you think a Mexican can ever order seltzer in a restaurant?)



Anyway, my point was that I have observed what I assume to be typical Chinese folk eating and they don't seem to favor the large portions of meat and sweet, gooey sauces at your typical American Chinese restaurant.



I didn't say Chinese food was bland. I simply pointed out that when I have observed Asian employees in my local Chinese restaurants (local as in Philly area and NY) breaking for a meal the same is always the case...they eat lots of rice, a little meat, and no sauces.



That's not to say that there isn't other types of food. I was simply conversing on my observations. China is a big place with many regional variations in food. I am sure they offer non-bland items.



P.S. Given that I work in high-tech, I also have had an oppty to work with many Asian-Americans. They often bring in tupperware lunches, and its of the type I describe. I have even talked to them about the general differences between the way they eat and what we view as the typical American Chinese food.



They say the same thing:



"It's the fat American diet and tastes that have added all the gooey, sweet sauces to things, and provided gargantuan meat portions."



As I said, they bring in a big tupperware bowl filled with rice, and the top has some green vegetables (steamed) and a couple of small pieces of meat (often steamed too).



Very common...I see it all the time...for those working in the restaurants, and those that make good cash working in IT.



TJR
 
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Gavin,



I guess I can see the confusion.



Again, my intent wasn't to describe a generality. "Chinese food is bland" is what Caymen said that I said. I didn't. That's a generality. I was simply pointing out my observations and experiences. I observed specific eating styles, again, and again, and my observations were of bland food eating. I was talking about and in the context those specific observations. I did not say that Chinese food, in general, was bland.



What I will stand by though is that most Chinese don't consider American Chinese food to be the kind of food they are used to. That's really what I was trying to say, though just about anything I say gets a rise out of Caymen. The sky by my house is blue today, but I am sure e would give it a different color. ;)



One thing I have learned as that American versions of Italian, Chinese, Mexican and Japanese foods (and other ethnic cuisine) is often very different than what you get if you actually travel to the respective countries and sample their fare.



Rampo,



How is the local cuisine? Is it like what you at your hometown "Gourmet Wok?"



TJR
 
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Gavin,



Even American food, say like McDonald's, is often very different in other countries. I was just in Japan. They served an American-style breakfast which had bacon unlike any I have ever had. The McDonalds served sandwiches, one a fish-cake like sandwich, another a terayaki Pork sandwhich, clearly catering to the local tastes.



I had sushi twice while in Japan...no wasabi offered either time. I was told that's mostly an "American" thing.



TJR
 
The bacon was hard to explain. First, it was done very soft...I like my bacon crisp. Second, it hardly had any smokey or salty flavor. Third, it was very, very fatty.



TJR
 

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