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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Tom Schindler" data-source="post: 573837" data-attributes="member: 56140">RL,You choose not to see my definition of a 1/2 ton truck. There is not true definition. A 1/2 ton truck must be able to be compared to other 1/2 ton trucks.If Honda would have come out with the Ridgeline that could tow 15,000 LLBS, haul 2500 LBS in the bed and have 450 LB Ft or torque, but call it a 1/2 ton truck, I would disagree. It is, at a minimum, a 3/4 ton truck. To call some type of vehicle something requires you to compare it to something. What makes a midsize car? Smaller then a full size, but larger then a compact. Could Honda make a midsize car and call it a compact? They could brag about having the roomiest compact on the market. When midsize cars start to go a little larger, the industry adapts. What is Honda built a compact car and called it a midsize car? They could brag about having the easiest to manuver midsize on the market.Compare apples to apples. Honda can call the RL a 1/2 ton truck, it doesn't mean it is a 1/2 ton truck. Put a 5000 LB trailer behind a RL and a 5000 LB trailer behind an F-150 5.4L 3V and go up a steep hill. The F-150 will eat that Ridgeline alive.The F-150 is a real 1/2 ton truck, the RL isn't.Tomp.s. Put the beer in the truck full of ice. Put a yard of mulch in the bed. Go grab a beer! Change the flat tire while you are at it.</blockquote>