I've seen them, and I like them better than the Element; that's not saying much. It kinda looks like someone took an Avalanche, and put it in one of those junkyard car compressors. I will give it to them that they painted the bottom and didn't go with grey plastic (I know it's probably plastic, but you can't see it) Apparently a bunch of designers decided that the "boxy" look was "in", but no one told me...