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JERRY (orignal Poster)



I'd hate to see what you are going to post here for "Testicular Cancer Awareness Month!!" (if there were such a thing)



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Again, these comments are all based on some not so veiled implication that somehow the attention and resources that breast cancer gets is not as deserving as other forms of cancer...

No, at least in my case, I definitely would not say any are more or less "deserving". Simply because that's such a loaded and subjective word. Maybe others might say that, I don't know, I can't speak for them. I'm simply stating that, from a per-victim (both survivor and fatality) perspective, breast cancer gets far more funding and attention than any other cancer. This goes for both private and public funding.



AND that the attention and resources take away from those other forms of cancer research.

Reread my earlier post--I did point out that many of those involved with fund raising to fight other cancers, while wishing they could get breast cancer's attention and funding, state that they are better off with breast cancer leading the way and keeping cancer (in general) in the public spotlight, allowing the others to ride their coattails. Breast cancer is kind of like the Yankees--Baseball fans and the management of other teams may dislike them for the way they seemingly have endless payrolls and are able to buy everyone else's top players to remain perennial contenders, but the fact is that financially, all the other teams do much better with them than without them, as they're able to ride the Yankees' coattails to a certain extent.



It is not in my makeup to believe that for one thing to do well it means something else must do poorly.

Repeating what I said, I am not at all saying that the others are doing poorly. Continuing the baseball analogy, the other teams, and the other cancers, are doing better with the Yankees in the league than what they would if the Yankees were not in the league. But that in no way means that the Yankees success, or breast cancer's success, is due solely to better management. With the Yankees, a lot of it is simply market size. If the Kansas City metro market was the size of New York's, they'd be having far more financial success too. With breast cancer, a lot of it is due to political correctness.



Granted, that political correctness is an asset which needs to be used wisely to prevent it from becoming a detriment, and the people in that cause have done a great job of it. And I don't fault them for using that asset, any more than I fault the handsome rich guy with all the charisma for using those assets to get all the hot women. But to deny that much of breast cancer's success is due to its politically correct status is to put your head in the sand with blinders on.



Are we assuming or do we actually have evidence that those other, supposedly more "needy" forms of cancer research are in fact getting less resources? Is that a fact?

We actually have evidence, it is a fact. I don't have the book in front of me to point out specific data and references, but the book I mentioned previously, Dr. Warren Farrell's "The Myth of Male Power" does an excellent job of going over the data from a multitude of sources, regarding both funds from private sources (which is obviously what has been getting the most visibility, with all the pink ribbon corporate sponsorships from companies all over the spectrum, as well as private organizations like Susan Komen), as well as public funding for cancer research. (Needless to say, the elected officials in Washington get just as swept up on the breast cancer bandwagon, as supporting breast cancer research with public dollars equals easy votes.) Even if I had the book handy, I wouldn't go into the details of the data here--you can easily get the book from any library and go over it yourself.
 
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Bill V,



Thanks. Glad that there is arguably some stats that show that breast cancer gets a seeming disproportionate amount of attention and funding.



Even if it does...I say: SO WHAT!



Again, I don't see the issue here. Complaining about the reality smacks of victim mentality, and furthering the whole idea of "if you get all the good luck, money, etc, then there isn't enough to go around for us" mindset which I simply do not subscribe to.



I applaud breast cancer research and charitable initiatives. Great job! There is enough money, good luck, and research effort and funds to go around *IF* people think those other forms of cancer are as important, or fighting them appeals to the masses as much.



Again, don't be a hater because the "machine" of breast cancer research and funding is doing a better job than the rest.



The Yankees analogy is a great one. Most that hate them because of the money they spend, the teams they field, the good fortune they have had do so with mostly sour grapes.



TJR
 
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TJR



Well said.



As one with a "other cancer" I say, more power to them and god bless. Hope people help anyway they can, give money, and a cure is found quickly.



"Those who say it can't be done, shouldn't interrupt those doing it."



:haveabeer: or in some cases decaf
 
It is my right to pull the bulls4!t card whenever I see the pink ribbon worn proudly by someone that did not have breast cancer.





Tom
 
"gary s., there was nothing "ass" at all about Tom's comments and questions. They're very legitimate. And I find your comments regarding Caymen on this subject very disturbing."



bill v.

reread toms orig post. there is a tone that is disturbing.

he also mentions nothing about his wife making the inapproeriate comments.



i fully understand his message, but when you read the tone of the post then it becomes "ass" like.



here is another:

"It is my right to pull the bulls4!t card whenever I see the pink ribbon worn proudly by someone that did not have breast cancer."



maybe that person has someone close to them that has breast cancer. there are ribbons & braclets for alot of things. so if it is one of the cancers that tom put on his more important list, then it is ok to show your support?



either way, ANY cancer is horrible :sad:







 
maybe that person has someone close to them that has breast cancer. there are ribbons & braclets for alot of things. so if it is one of the cancers that tom put on his more important list, then it is ok to show your support?



I should have mentioned that I also repect someone that wears a ribbon in support of someone they love with that cancer.



Theresa will sometimes wear a blue ribbon (the alternate colon cancer color as the original one was brown...:angry:) in memory.



Was at Target today and Master Lock has locks with pink ribbons on them. :throwup:





Tom
 
Gary S,



Sometimes hate is the biggest thing people have, and it clouds all aspects of their life. Makes them a victim, makes them blame others, and makes them look even at good things with distain.



TJR
 
no prob, breast cancer has been a big issue in my gf family but still a joke is a joke..



you stated that you were sorry if it offends anyone, and i think clearly that was not your intention...



wonder whats gonna happen when someone says happy halloween! gesh! :toilet:
 
My mother is a survivor of breast cancer, her mother died from colon cancer and others in my family have different types as well so cancer runs in my family. It was merely a joke thread to continue the line of joke threads before this one. Didn't think I'd start a war on this site over a joke but for some it doesn't take much to get them arguing with each other. Oh well, hey just so you guys have something else to talk about here's a picture of my....... It's getting cold out again!

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