Frank screwyourednecks
Well-Known Member
Recently, I have had some discussions with members here, that have a hard time accepting that the United States is not a "Christian" Nation. I know that some want this to be the case...but you cannot exercise your dominion over others in America. Religion has no place in politics, or government. Period.
Some proof:
Separation of church and state refers to the distance in the relationship between organized religion and the nation state. The term is an offshoot of the phrase, "wall of separation between church and state," as written in Thomas Jefferson's letter to the Danbury Baptists Association in 1802. The original text reads: "...I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should 'make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,' thus building a wall of separation between Church & State."
This was upheld by the United States Supreme Court first in 1878, and then in a series of cases starting in 1947. The phrase "Wall" itself does not appear in the U.S. Constitution. The First Amendment to the Constitution states that "Congress shall make no law, respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof."
No matter what you read or take from these examples... it means (and you know it does) that the United States of America is not a Christain Nation. It is a Nation of all religions.. a Nation FREE FROM religion, for the individual.. or a Nation of the religion of the individuals choice.
I like the phrase 'Free exercise" that means (for all the laymen) that you may worship the way you want. Or exercise your feedom FROM religion. The exact reason that Europeans came here to America..to escape RELIGIOUS persecution.
Now..I shudder to think of how this can be twisted, spun, or argued. There are reasons why it is illegal for a religious leader (preacher, deacon, priest, vicar, televangelist) to endorse political candidates from the pulpit. There are reasons that it is illegal to display religious items on public property. There are reasons that you cannot teach creationism in public schools... Because it is a particular sects OPINION of history... and of course the majority of citizens do not believe the same things. Its pretty simple... do not let a certain extreme group of politicians try to confuse you... Church and State will always be apart in America... and America is not a Christian Nation.
Stay thirsty (for facts) my friends.
Frank
Some proof:
Separation of church and state refers to the distance in the relationship between organized religion and the nation state. The term is an offshoot of the phrase, "wall of separation between church and state," as written in Thomas Jefferson's letter to the Danbury Baptists Association in 1802. The original text reads: "...I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should 'make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,' thus building a wall of separation between Church & State."
This was upheld by the United States Supreme Court first in 1878, and then in a series of cases starting in 1947. The phrase "Wall" itself does not appear in the U.S. Constitution. The First Amendment to the Constitution states that "Congress shall make no law, respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof."
No matter what you read or take from these examples... it means (and you know it does) that the United States of America is not a Christain Nation. It is a Nation of all religions.. a Nation FREE FROM religion, for the individual.. or a Nation of the religion of the individuals choice.
I like the phrase 'Free exercise" that means (for all the laymen) that you may worship the way you want. Or exercise your feedom FROM religion. The exact reason that Europeans came here to America..to escape RELIGIOUS persecution.
Now..I shudder to think of how this can be twisted, spun, or argued. There are reasons why it is illegal for a religious leader (preacher, deacon, priest, vicar, televangelist) to endorse political candidates from the pulpit. There are reasons that it is illegal to display religious items on public property. There are reasons that you cannot teach creationism in public schools... Because it is a particular sects OPINION of history... and of course the majority of citizens do not believe the same things. Its pretty simple... do not let a certain extreme group of politicians try to confuse you... Church and State will always be apart in America... and America is not a Christian Nation.
Stay thirsty (for facts) my friends.
Frank