now 2 days after christmas....

[gary s]

i would think just sitting in the elements would have it rust quicker. but then again......



btw, imo, the rust you described is not normal

 

[Bill V]

Gary, a new car that just sits for years, even outdoors, is likely going to show very little rust. If it just sits, the areas most prone to rust aren't going to be exposed to things like salt, gravel, etc, which both enables and accelerate the rust process, as well as put dings and other damage in the features like paint coats meant to inhibit the rust process.

 

[Tom Schindler]

btw, imo, the rust you described is not normal

How did I describe this rust or are you just trying to start s4!t?





Tom

 

[H D]

 

[gary s]

"How did I describe this rust or are you just trying to start s4!t?"



no poop here, are these not your words below....?



" If the body would hold up. we would driver her another 100,000 miles, but the rust is catching up to her, so I expect this summer to be the end of our relationship."



bill,

i understand that, but the 350z is driven over salt covered roads as well. nearly not as many miles, but i find it unusual for that much rust descibed in tom's words.



btw, 2 other examples. my 91 escort was driven 160k until 99 in all type of winter weather and it towed 2 waverunners and was dipped in salt water many times. no body/frame rust, just the rear brakes froze due to rust from sitting in salt water. as a matter of fact, salt water leaked thru the rear doors and soaked the floor. i had the carpet removed/cleaned and the floor pan was cleaned as well. only rust was on the bolts holding the seat down and the computer under the seat for the auto seatbelts fried.

next example, admin at my job, 2001 toy avalon driven over 200k miles everyday from north n. jersey to long island. no rust on that either.

imo, the way the rust is described, not normal.

 

[Tom Schindler]

Gary,



The rust I see is perfectly normal for NE Ohio.





Tom

 

[gary s]

"The rust I see is perfectly normal for NE Ohio"



you must be lookin' thru RUST coloured glasses :bwahaha:

 

[Tom Schindler]

Gary,



Maybe my definition of "too much rust" is different than yours. The bottom of the rear doors is rusting on the inside is rusting, along with the bottom of the rear gate, and on the rear fender wells. The rust has not gone through the metal.



I know you are used to Toyota's and you are expecting large rotted out areas throughout the vehicle.



With our Explorer, if you just look at it you don't see the rust. A close inspection and you can see it.



They don't call this area the "rust belt" for nothing.





Tom

 

[Thomas Rogers]

Caymen said: They don't call this area the "rust belt" for nothing.



I thought they called it that because of the steel mills, not because of the bad weather and the large amount of salt used on the roads. Hey, maybe they call it that for both reason. However, Bethlehem PA is part of the rust belt, and they don't have near the car rusting problems that Ohio has.



P.S. Wikipedia gives a reference for another reason for the name. Kinda lame, but it would explain how the term refers to local areas hit hard by factory closings (not steel mills) as well.



TJR

 

[gary s]

"rust belt"



or......



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