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OK, you know how I love political debates. I was wondering if anyone saw Senator Clinton's Interview on the "The O'Reilly Factor" over the last two nights. (Sorry, I am sure that I am spelling "O'Reilly" wrong.



Two points:

1. I know some people hate him, but say what you want about Bill O'Reilly, you can't deny that he does not shy away from asking tough questions. That interview clearly was not scripted.



2. While I don't like her politics and generally disagree with her policies, she came off really well on that interview. She didn't win my vote, but I would bet she won some.



Rocks
 
She's not dumb in fact she seems a whole lot smarter then Bill. I just don't like her socialist politics.
 
As a Senator, I think she could be great as in that role, she has goals of being in a larger office.



However, as the President... There is no where else for her to go. That plus the not so honest campaign does concern me...



Between Clinton and the on-going issues that Obama is having, they are making McCain look better and better every day...



It always does come down to picking the worse of the evils...
 
How about "HillCare" her insane universal health care plan.



How about her proposal to raise taxes on Americans making more than $250,000 a year to help lower-income Americans.



Hillary is telling us that we should abandon individuality, abandon self-reliance, and become more dependent on the government. Read some of her famous quotes from the website below.



I prefer to see a politician say, "I promise to get government out of your life so that you can get a better job, improve the economy, and improve your standard of living". Which is the excact opposite of Hillary.
 
She has been spewing her dribble about universal health care since Billy ran for President. Her proposals didn't work then and they won't work now. More government is the LAST thing I need in my life. If I want every thing I do to be decided by someone else I will join a cult...:angry:
 
Les, no offense intended, but here is your grammar tip for the day:



The word is "drivel", as in "to talk stupidly and carelessly". If just a typo, then nevermind.



TJR
 
Well TomT



You cited what Your hero Bill O'Liar stated in the interview. Hillary (actually all Democrats) want to increase the tax rate for folks earning over 250K.



You also cited Hillary's attempt 15 years ago to reform Healthcare. (which is undeniably broken)



This tells me you were alive in 1992 and you watched (your hero) Billo the other night.



You dont follow any political rhetoric but your own miserably out of touch, failing Republican party. You came up with NOTHING "Socialist" You need to try harder to retort. Lazy!



You mentioned the tax increase that Hillary is pondering. HMMM



Most Americans (99 percent) make less than 250K. That is everyone dude!



The people making OVER 250K do NOT pay taxes at the same rate as the people making LESS than 250K. They pay a LESSER rate than the working people.



(Dont get confused I know its easy for the brainwashed)



By increasing the tax rate (not even near an equal rate) the working people (remember thats almost everyone) get a slight respite from the unfair economical advantages of the wealthy.



The working people have sent thier children to fight your heros war, have burdened the cost of the war and have worked forced overtime at all time highs to finance this ridiculous war.



How dare anyone second guess what the Democrats are trying to do. If you think that the new tax rates that are going to be in full effect once Hillary or Obama are in office are "Socialist" than I will not blink in calling you ignorant.



Paying an increased tax rate is not "Socialist" (remember it is the extreme minority that will be paying a little more) it is just putting a band aid on the deep financial problems we have here in America. If I had my druthers the wealthy would pay a flat rate. Everyone pays the same. WOW THAT SOUNDS FAIR??! But alas, Robin Hood is only a folk tale and the rich will keep thier fortune.



Socialist, it is not. The pathetic spin that comes from the self proclaimed "No Spin Zone" is utter fecal matter. The only problem I have is why any Dem went on FOX in the first place.



Perhaps I am remiss to stand up for Hillary anyway. I am an Obama supporter. Hillary is capable, but is also too steeped in the old style politico culture in Washington. She would only "spit coat" the middle class. Mind you, she was once on Wal Marts board of directors.



Well, in any event TOMT, I hope you see it a good idea to accept change in our society. I hope that you (if you indeed Do make more than 250K) will gladly pay a bit more taxes for the good of our troubled economy, and for the good of our nation. Dont be bitter, if there werent checks and balances, then you would be just as poor as anyone else and only the BIG BIG boys would have riches. They would tax your ass into oblivion because they "could". I might even offer you a place to stay, I know I will be working for my family just as hard as I do now either way.



Frank (working man)
 
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Oh, good, Frank came out to insult people again (Do you still need that hug, man?)



How dare anyone second guess what the Democrats are trying to do.



Isn't this kind of blind faith in a party exactly the thing that you are accusing others of?



Reminds me of a Clapton song -- "Before you accuse me, take a look at yourself"



Rocks
 
Tom,



Forgive me for stepping on your toes, but I went ahead and pulled some of those socialist quotes from the web site -- as it seems clear that certain people will not actually go read them.



By the way, wasn't Robin Hood fighting against -- UNFAIR TAXES BY THE GOVERNMENT!!!!!!!!! He took from the rich -- which in his case was the government -- and returned it to the people. Seems some people can't even remember their folk tales right.



Anyway -- back to the socialism lesson.



"We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good."



"It's time for a new beginning, for an end to government of the few, by the few, and for the few...... And to replace it with shared responsibility for shared prosperity."



"(We) ....can't just let business as usual go on, and that means something has to be taken away from some people."



"We have to build a political consensus and that requires people to give up a little bit of their own turf in order to create this common ground."



MMMMMM, that's good socialism!:p:p



Edit: Just fixing some typos
 
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"You can have my [guns, money, property, liberty] when you pry them from my cold, dead fingers."



Though without guns, since they're taking them all away, and with their non-violent claims, how could the neo-liberal kill me? With their atrophied bodies due to their majority of followers being vegetarians or vegans, how could they pry apart even my lifeless fingers? They couldn't, so they will never take anything from me, in life or in death.



Socialism...where everyone is allegedly "equal" and all actions are "for the good of the community". So then how could Hillary be President in a socialist country? If everyone is "equal", how could she have a higher rank? Ohhhh, that's right, because socialism is a scam for a few people to have all the power while everyone else eats dirt and suffers, but they think that they have it better so they follow along. See Cuba, USSR, China. Communism is just a short hop away from socalism.



 
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Sorry, I had something to say but the NASCAR race is about to start. You have to know what is important in life. Anyone seen my beer?
 
No, but if you don't find it, you'll be bored out of your mind watching NASCAR. Without beer, there is nothing...to nascar.
 
Here we Go!



You cited what Your hero Bill O'Liar stated in the interview. Hillary (actually all Democrats) want to increase the tax rate for folks earning over 250K.



Bill has not lied, now or anytime, especially in fron tof a Grand Jury, just as say, oh I don't know, PRESIDENT Clinton did???!



You also cited Hillary's attempt 15 years ago to reform Healthcare. (which is undeniably broken)



This tells me you were alive in 1992 and you watched (your hero) Billo the other night.



You dont follow any political rhetoric but your own miserably out of touch, failing Republican party. You came up with NOTHING "Socialist" You need to try harder to retort. Lazy!



She didn't try to reform Health Care. She tried to destory it and replace it with Socialized Medicine. The GOVERNMENT SUPPLYING HEALTHCARE AT "NO COST" is SOCIALISM.



The Republican party (thankfully) hasn't done much. Got to love an Effective government. A government that doesn't do much be let me make my own decisions is pretty damn effective to me.



You mentioned the tax increase that Hillary is pondering. HMMM



Most Americans (99 percent) make less than 250K. That is everyone dude!



The people making OVER 250K do NOT pay taxes at the same rate as the people making LESS than 250K. They pay a LESSER rate than the working people.



(Dont get confused I know its easy for the brainwashed)



By increasing the tax rate (not even near an equal rate) the working people (remember thats almost everyone) get a slight respite from the unfair economical advantages of the wealthy.



The Top 10% of wage earners pay 90% of the taxes. The people making $90,000 a year are not out paying 25% luxury tax on a new yacht.



I have never been employed by someone who makes less than $90,000 a year.



Try it sometime for yourself... oh wait you need to pull your head out of your arse to make that kind of money. Sorry.





The working people have sent thier children to fight your heros war, have burdened the cost of the war and have worked forced overtime at all time highs to finance this ridiculous war.



Yep, so have the "rich" people. Our distinguished military people come for all backgrounds. Some joined for college money. Some joined for patriotism. Some joined because their parents suggested it. Some joined to get out of a troublesome upbringing. Some joined to get some dicipline in their lives. Some came from dirt poor families, some came from rich families. Most came from somewhere in the middle, which is much like the rest of society. The middle class is the largest representative population in this country, so in any given population-based cross section of a group, you will ALWAYS see a larger (you call it unequal) percentage that are middle class.



How dare anyone second guess what the Democrats are trying to do. If you think that the new tax rates that are going to be in full effect once Hillary or Obama are in office are "Socialist" than I will not blink in calling you ignorant.



I second guess what EVERY politician does, especially the Democrats because they and their policies are contary to nearly everything this country has been based on and subsided in for the last 200 years, namely personal responcibility and a limited government.



I do not "blink" calling you ignorant now because, you sir, are ignorant and blindly leading the dictates and mandates of a person (Hillary or Obama) that is clearly not in the best interest of the country, but rather the best interest of themselves.



Paying an increased tax rate is not "Socialist" (remember it is the extreme minority that will be paying a little more) it is just putting a band aid on the deep financial problems we have here in America. If I had my druthers the wealthy would pay a flat rate
 
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