Well, our manual tranny is shot

[Rodger Tellefson]

Yup, pulled into the repair shop just in time to have it not go into any gear; even when double clutching. So it looks like a rebuild, ouch. Just had a new clutch put in too.

 

[Richard L]

Rodger,

If you just had a new clutch put in, I'm wondering if they screwed it up?? Its very rare that all transmission gears go out in a manual trans or it will not shift into one gearor won't stay in gear. Manual transmissions that will not go into any gear sounds like a broken input shaft, or the clutch is not disengaging and is binding on the input shaft ??



I would be highly suspicious that the clutch job was botched.



...Rich

 

[Todd Z]

I also think it is a botched clutch, I think it may be stuck to the flywheel, or the pressure plate is frozen, Could even be a bad slave cylinder or master...



Hope it is something simple...



Todd Z

 

[Dave S 2]

I agree with Todd...Sounds like a clutch problem...Hopefully the last replacers aren't out to save face and actually own up to an inferior clutch replacement.



Would save you a lot of $...Money better spent on Royal Purple!!!

 

[Rodger Tellefson]

Thanks guys. It actually sounds like the syncromesh is messed up. I am a little sceptical about that though. You guys are usually right on the money. I'll keep ya posted.

 

[Kevin Palmer]

Roger, if I read your profile properly hers is a list of some of the tranny's available. Compare them to a rebuild and see what is better for you.



Let me know if I can help....



The lower on the list, the more affordable..



2005

Transmission

Ford Ranger -2PU,1204,4.0,M5,4X2 ,17K,E233108 F62250 $500.17 LKQ Foster Auto Parts USA-OR(Portland) Request_Quote 1-888-578-5548 Request_Insurance_Quote

2001

Transmission

Ford Explorer TG/SG 42,516 A R1367 $500 AutoGator Roseville USA-CA(Roseville) Request_Quote 1-800-833-9292 Request_Insurance_Quote



2001

Transmission

Ford Explorer REPLACE TAIL HOUSING 73,387 A B3408 $500 Oil City Auto Salvage Inc USA-MI(Shepherd) E-mail 800-255-8727

2002

Transmission

Ford Explorer 4.0,FL,5SPD,12-06,SH FTGDSAMMY 06K445 $500 Gagels Auto Parts USA-FL(Riverview) E-mail 1-800-537-5948

2003

Transmission

Ford Explorer Sport Trac BLU,4.0L,1-03,FL-5SP 06K497 $500 Gagels Auto Parts USA-FL(Riverview) E-mail 1-800-537-5948

2002

Transmission

Ford Explorer SPORT,4.0L,ATOD,RWD, TCDW,Column 81,151 B 148891 $500 Bill Smith Auto Parts USA-IL(Bloomington) E-mail 1-800-531-4684

2003

Transmission

Ford Explorer 62,420 B AA0011 $499 249 Auto Parts USA-TX(Houston) E-mail 1-281-820-1111

2001

Transmission

Ford Explorer MT, 2 Dr (Spt), 4X2--93K 93,000 B 7E739 $450 Odum's Auto Salvage USA-NC(Hubert) Request_Quote 1-800-544-8490 Request_Insurance_Quote



2001

Transmission

Ford Explorer 4X2 SPORT mazda 109,000 5A5963 $450 Speedway Auto Parts & Wreckers, Inc. USA-IL(Chicago-Height) E-mail 1-800-723-8501

2003

Transmission

Ford Explorer Sport Trac $450 Smitty's Auto Parts, Inc USA-TN(Nashville) E-mail 615-833-3399

2002

Transmission

Ford Explorer Sport Trac 62,000 070181 $450 Reeds Auto Parts USA-SC(Easley) E-mail 877-859-0534

2001

Transmission

Ford Explorer SPORT,4.0L,ATOD,RWD, TCP,Column 89,529 FP0456 $450 Priest Brothers / C & W Auto Salvage USA-OK(Lawton) E-mail 1-800-375-1820 / 1-580-357-1820

2001

Transmission

Ford Explorer 84K 84,000 FB015748 $431.25 Bessler Auto Parts - ARAPro USA-KY(Wilder) Request_Quote 1-800-576-6816 Request_Insurance_Quote



2002

Transmission

Ford Explorer -F5,4.0,00/00,1A,M.T ., 4 DR, SPT TRAC, 76,000 K71046 $400.18 LKQ of South Texas USA-TX(Houston) E-mail 1-800-460-8714

2001

Transmission

Ford Explorer -154470-M.T., 2 DR (SPT), 4X2-RG R71102 $400.17 LKQ of Northern California USA-CA(Redding) E-mail 1-800-424-2002

2001

Transmission

Ford Ranger 159052--M.T., 4X2, 6-245 (4.0L),RG R72188 $400.17 LKQ of Northern California USA-CA(Redding) E-mail 1-800-424-2002

2002

Transmission

Ford Explorer M.T., 2 Dr (Spt), 4X2-57K(DT-TG 57,000 S61935 $400.17 LKQ - Lakenor Auto Salvage USA-CA(Sante-Fe Springs) E-mail 1-800-525-3667

2001

Transmission

Ford Explorer 54,471 A 00525923 $400 PRP - Snyder Salvage, URG 8000 USA-TX(Holland) E-mail 1-800-460-8025

2001

Transmission

Ford Explorer 98,000 B 00270044 $400 Raceway Auto Parts USA-TN(Savannah) E-mail 1-888-762-6611

2001

Transmission

Ford Ranger -MT,4X2,6-245,4.0,ID 1L54-GB,75K,YTP 999,000 V60158 $335.15 LKQ - Route 16 Used Auto USA-MA(Webster) E-mail 1-800-423-4006

2002

Transmission

Ford Explorer - $195 All Discount Auto Salvage USA-TX(Grand-Prairie) Request_Quote 1-972-264-4466 Request_Insurance_Quote

2002

Transmission

Ford Explorer - $195 All Discount Auto Salvage USA-TX(Grand-Prairie) Request_Quote 1-972-264-4466 Request_Insurance_Quote

2002

Transmission

Ford Explorer - $195 All Discount Auto Salvage USA-TX(Grand-Prairie) Request_Quote 1-972-264-4466 Request_Insurance_Quote

 

[Richard L]

Rodger,

I forgot that the Sport Trac had a hydraulic clutch. If the system develops a leak, you dont have a clutch and that will make it difficult or impossible to shift or drive.



I had the clutch slave cylinder go out on my Honda, and it was difficult to shift for a day or two and then nothing! It sounds like you were experiencing some problems and you just make it to the repair shop when the clutch went out.



Syncromesh only means that the gears are always in constant mesh with the other gears (No more sliding gears). The only moving part is the toothed syncronizer ring which locks the particular gear onto the shaft and thus engages that gear. Each gear has a syncronizer, and i cannot phatom that all of the syncronizers would all go out at once.



They guys who did the clutch job should have inspected the clutch slave cylinder for leaks...Again, they done often go out all at once, they leak for a while before the shifting gets harder. Then when the fluid gets too low, and your master cylinder is sucking air, they will just quit. They should have noticed that.



I even suspect that that was the original clutch problem that made you get the clutch replaced in the first place. They replaced your clutch and probably just bled your clutch slave cylinder. As soon as your fluid level dropped the clutch died again.



...Rich

 

[Curt NA]

Rodger, please post back about your experience with the repair shop. I might need a good place to bring my ST in case my tranny has problems too.

 

[Rodger Tellefson]

Thanks Richard,



The hydraulics are going to be looked at first. What you said about the synromesh does makes sense. The master/slave cylinder has plagued us. Does anyone know of a good aftermarket Master / Slave cylinder? BTW, we did have new master & slave cylinders put in new when the new clutch was put in.

 

[Fudged Undies]

The STs master cylinder is pathetic and SEEMS like it was designed to last only so long. It is built into the assembly that attaches to the clutch pedal. If it is leaking, you'll know it as clutch pedal pressure will vary from time to time and make shifting easy at times and very difficult at other times and you can probably see the leak inside the cab of the trac right beneath the clutch pedal assembly. I'm positive my slave was questionable from the day I bought the trac (new). Once I replaced it, you could tell immediately as pressure became consistent. Rodger, we've talked about this in the past, and my main question is has the clutch pedal pressure been inconsistent? I'd be really surprised if the tranny just crapped out without any warning.

 

[Rodger Tellefson]

Spaceman,

Rodger, we've talked about this in the past, and my main question is has the clutch pedal pressure been inconsistent?

No not really inconsistent, but now that you have mentioned it the pressure has gradually changed over the past couple of months. I will make sure that they take a look at it.

 

[Richard L]

Rodger,

If the master cylinder and slave cylinder were changed out when you had the new clutch installed, and now you may be having more clutch problems, I begining to think that perhaps the fluid line is bad or has one or both connectior fittings stripped?? I don't know if the ST uses a solid line, a hose or a combination. In eaither case, be sure they check all the lines fittings and bleeder valves.



...Rich

 

[Rodger Tellefson]

Richard,



Thank You for your input. That does makes sense since there was a problem with getting the system bled after installing the new clutch. I passed on the info. to the shop doing the work.



Rodger

 

[Rodger Tellefson]

Don't know yet what caused it, but the tranny is definately toast. The hydraulics were bled, and no air in the line. Looks like a replacement tranny.

 

[mookie]

You DIDN'T use Royal Purple in there, did you? Just kidding!:lol:



Sorry to hear of your problem...

 

[Rodger Tellefson]

Anyone know of a better build tranny? I've looked at Richmind Gear, but that's not quite what I want in a tranny.