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Greg Cheek

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I have heard that if we boycotted buying gas from Mobile and Exxon stations-these two being supposedly the largest American suppliers, It would hurt them in their pockets and they would havve to lower prices and the others would follow. Supposedly if we remained committed to this we could drive gas prices back down to a respectable price. In my mind it seems possible, but maybe just a lil too hopeful. What do you guys think?:D
 
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I am up for boycotting lots of things... like all gas companies.. maybe then prices will go down... or we will all lose our jobs for not going to work cause we have no gas.... either way... prices need to go down...



JE
 
Do you think your local Kwik-E-Mart has their own refinery? Exxon/Mobil will continue sell lots of gas no matter where you fill up. You'll only hurt the little guys who own/operate the Exxon/Mobil stations.



Illegal drug prices are high. Do you blame the producers, dealers or the addicts?
 
The boycott one gas stations for a day or boycott one company has been thought of and argued ever since the fuel crisis in the 70's. Some folks will argue all day about how it will work but bottom line is they don't. In the long run, the oil company will still get it's money one way or another and the only folks it will hurt is little privately owned fuel stations and the end consumers.



Cliff
 
Alright SST, I'm busted. That drug thing was a stretch.



My point is that, we as gas-addicted consumers will continue to be at the mercy of the oil-producing nations and oil-refining corporations until we reduce demand to the point they have excess capacity.



The analogy kind of breaks down there but I really liked my Kwik-E-Mart line.
 
Quit buying Chinese imported goods, quit supporting stores like Wal-Mart that sell goods made in China, and do not support buisnesses that move operations to China.



China is a major cause of the price of gasoline. They are competing against the USA in the market for oil. As long as we send our money to China, directly or indirectly, we are contributing to the rise in cost of fuel. China is growing. They are becoming richer from us by sending our money over there so we can save money on the goods we buy.



The savings we get, come at a very high cost.



The US government will not allow us to buy Cigars and Rum from Cuba because they have a "bad dictator", yet it is OK to have trade relations from a country that has done more harm to thier people then Cuba ever has.



It just goes to show that our government "for the people, by the people" isnt fur us, by us. What they really mean is, "for the buisnesses, by the buisnesses, screw everyone else".



Let the flames begin.





Tom
 
It's not just here in the U.S. that demand has risen. It's up all over the world. Prices have also risen due to some recent problems at U.S. refineries. Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't there a huge fire at a major Houston refinery recently? After that happened, oil speculators and investors got nervous, and prices started to rise.



And I've posted this before, but just as a reminder, I'll do so again. Here are some reasons why gas prices have risen:



1. There is a higher demand for gas in the U.S. American consumers are using more gas this year than they have in many previous years, even with the high prices. Especially with the War on Terror. More people are driving than flying.



2. Environmental regulations lower the supply base of gasoline available to consumers. Oil refineries have to switch production at certain times of the year to boutique gas blends for specific geographical regions. This means that if there is a shortage driving prices up in one-region supplies can't be shipped in from another region to meet demand ... wrong blend.



3. Environmental activists have also cause us to be more dependent on foreign oil by not allowing domestic drilling in ANWAR and off U.S. shores and in the Gulf of Mexico.



4. We have about one-half the number of oil refineries in the United States that we had 30 years ago. The last time a new refinery opened for business was in 1976. Environmentalists have also prevented new oil refineries from being constructed.



5. There is an unexpected high demand for petroleum in China. Some think that China may be buying huge supplies to build a strategic reserve.



6. Strong demand for oil in Asia is one reason for higher crude prices in recent months, although analysts also said that aggressive bets by large commodity speculators have contributed to the recent run-up in oil markets. Much of the attention on Asian oil supplies is related to the fast-growing economies of China and India. Sales of diesel fuel in India, which account for about 40 percent of the oil sold in that country, soared 10 percent in February 2005 from the same month a year earlier; automobile sales in India grew 31 percent in the last year. India's oil imports are forecast to continue to climb as its economy grows 8 percent this year.



7. Saudi Arabia has cut production. There is speculation that Saudi Arabia is recognizing that its reserves of crude oil are running out. Saudi production may never again reach previous highs.





Do you want to see the price of crude oil, and thus the price of gas at the pump, dive for the floor overnight? Just let the Congress go ahead and authorize the exploration in ANWR. The Oil Sheiks will immediately lower their prices in order to forestall a rapid implementation of any exploration or oil recovery that could cut into their market share.



Did you know that the small section of the Alaskan National Wildlife Refuge where some want to drill for oil was actually set-aside for that specific purpose when ANWR was established? All we're talking about here is drilling for oil on a section ... a very small section ... of ANWR that was designated for oil exploration from the very beginning!



By the way ... do you know just how much of ANWR would be affected by the drilling? Here's an illustration. Take a look at a chair sitting on a nine foot by twelve-foot rug. The rug represents the total size of ANWR. Now, look at the space on that rug occupied by just one leg of that chair. Just one leg. That's the representative area of ANWR that would be disturbed by the drilling.
 
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I thought I read China was trying to buy part of Chevron or part of Shell. Can't remember which one.



FY...got it now...lol



As a small business owner I'm feeling it now as well....vinyl film has gone up 28% in the last six months while I try to keep my prices the same it's getting hard to with the extra cost of doing business.



Thanks,

SST
 
SST,



A state-controlled Chinese oil firm was bidding for Unocal, but withdrew after strong opposition from Congress. That hasn't stopped them, though. They're going after other oil interests. I hope our gov't is keeping an eye on China. It seems like they're really building up their military and seeking to boost their oil production and supply capacity. It almost looks like they're preparing for war right under our noses, while we're pre-occupied with the War on Terror. Definitely cause for concern.
 
And what about the recent Chinese-Russian Military excercises???

As if all the other posts weren't scary ( and true ) enough!

I think i will need a double-dose of my medication to sleep tonight!:wacko:
 
Tracnblack,



Good point, I forgot about that. We shouldn't forget that Russian President Putin is a former Communist who used to run the KGB in the Soviet Union. Personally, I don't think he should be trusted. A leopard can't change his spots!
 
As long as we close down steel mills and ship the operations to China, we will further weaken our country.



Weapons of war are made of steel. Ships are steel, tanks are steel, guns are steel.



What is wrong with that picture? Do we think we can armor our tanks with AOL CD-ROM's and old Microsoft Windows 95 CD-ROM's?





Tom
 
First off, don't make fun of M-soft Windows '95, as that is what I am running.

Actually, it is Windows '93 with a '95 update, but I digress.(Just Kidding!)

Andy H, similar in many ways to the OLD Bush and Clinton administrations where

they gave (Usama)Osama-bin-Laden money and arms to fight the Russians in

the old Afghanistan War. This has now been turned upon us in the form of

Sept. 11th! When will we (U.S.Government) learn? Or have they, and they have

just turned against us, and taken the path of least resistance???



Wait a minute, I think I hear someone knocking heavily at my back door...

Tell my wife and kids I love them...@# %2>....
 
Caymen said:
China is a major cause of the price of gasoline. They are competing against the USA in the market for oil. As long as we send our money to China, directly or indirectly, we are contributing to the rise in cost of fuel. China is growing. They are becoming richer from us by sending our money over there so we can save money on the goods we buy.



The US government will not allow us to buy Cigars and Rum from Cuba because they have a "bad dictator", yet it is OK to have trade relations from a country that has done more harm to thier people then Cuba ever has.



Werd.

Prices of most everything are determined by supply and demand plus some other factors (one of my degrees is in economics and I used to teach it at the college level).

#1, global demand is up, however #2, supply is limited because we can't drill for as much of our own as a lot of us would like to and #3, the Arabs control too much of the market, partly as a result of #2. Factor in the current instability in the middle east and Venezuela, and ouila, gas is $2.59 a gallon. :cool:
 
Not that I really want to get into a politically divisive question such as this but...



On the subject of refinery fires, it seems like some of these refinery fires CONVENIENTLY seem to happen every year. Now I'd never suggest that the oil companies are purposely setting them but it sure does make one wonder. Since we know that these refineries are old and in need of repair a fire is one way that the oil company can shut down production for a while and made changes. Does it impact operations? Of course but its likely one of the only ways the Fed's would allow them to stop production for any period of time. Since gas prices notoriously rise following a fire the oil company can recoup their profits from the increases in wholesale prices of their remaining product.



On the subject of local gas stations, I cannot speak for any place other than metro Phoenix but I've noticed recently a rash of gas stations being gutted and remodeled. Does this seem to be happening more in other cities too? Over the last several months the local paper has run articles talking about how wholesale gasoline margins are dwindling. If this is the case then how are the owners of these gas stations affording to demo their existing station, idling the pumps for weeks and months at a time, and rebuilding. If their margins are dwindling then one would assume they are making less profit per gallon of gas.



With regard to ANWR, I'm not an advocate of drilling up along the arctic circle. I grew up in Alaska and watched the disruption of the local ecosystem as they were building the Alaskan pipeline. The designers chose to build periodic "bridges" to allow wildlife to move freely around the pipeline but nobody ever bothered to tell the animals. I remember hearing stories where animals died because they could not figure out how to get around the pipeline. Now since I know our need for oil is coming to critical mass I personally think that the Fed's need to consider stepping up research on alternative fuel sources. This research almost needs to be Federally backed since private research runs the risk of having a less-than-scrupulous company purchasing the rights to promising research and burying it (something that sadly does seem to happen in commercial business).
 
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