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RFK Jr. has been slugging the same bottle his uncle, but he has only driven off the sanity bridge, not one near Chappaquiddick.



<a href="http://www.discover.com/issues/sep-05/departments/discover-dialogue/" target="_blank">Here's a nice piece</a> by Hurricane Meteorologist, William Gray (with over 50 years of studying hurricanes)...and his data that shoots GiNormous holes in enviro-nutjobs like RFK...and their blather.



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You don’t believe global warming is causing climate change?



G: No. If it is, it is causing such a small part that it is negligible. I’m not disputing that there has been global warming. There was a lot of global warming in the 1930s and ’40s, and then there was a slight global cooling from the middle ’40s to the early ’70s. And there has been warming since the middle ’70s, especially in the last 10 years. But this is natural, due to ocean circulation changes and other factors. It is not human induced.





That must be a controversial position among hurricane researchers.



G: Nearly all of my colleagues who have been around 40 or 50 years are skeptical as hell about this whole global-warming thing. But no one asks us. If you don’t know anything about how the atmosphere functions, you will of course say, “Look, greenhouse gases are going up, the globe is warming, they must be related.” Well, just because there are two associations, changing with the same sign, doesn’t mean that one is causing the other.





With last year’s hurricane season so active, and this year’s looking like it will be, won’t people say it’s evidence of global warming?



G: The Atlantic has had more of these storms in the least 10 years or so, but in other ocean basins, activity is slightly down. Why would that be so if this is climate change? The Atlantic is a special basin? The number of major storms in the Atlantic also went way down from the middle 1960s to the middle ’90s, when greenhouse gases were going up.





Why is there scientific support for the idea?



G: So many people have a vested interest in this global-warming thing—all these big labs and research and stuff. The idea is to frighten the public, to get money to study it more. Now that the cold war is over, we have to generate a common enemy to support science, and what better common enemy for the globe than greenhouse gases?





Are your funding problems due in part to your views?



G: I can’t be sure, but I think that’s a lot of the reason. I have been around 50 years, so my views on this are well known. I had NOAA money for 30 some years, and then when the Clinton administration came in and Gore started directing some of the environmental stuff, I was cut off. I couldn’t get any NOAA money. They turned down 13 straight proposals from me.



 
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Dive,



I am not sold on the "global warming" craze at all. Everything has cycles. IMO, again it is only my opinion, we are only looking at a short cycle of weather. There are no weather records that I know of that date back 400 years or more. Look in the newspaper. Records have been set for highs in the 30's, 50's, and 90's. Some go back to the 1800's. Other records show cold the same way.



Global warming is a buzz word. Years ago, the news was filled with nothing but sexual harasment. This person did this, that person did that. IMO it got to the point if you seen an attractive lady, not wearing a wedding ring and you said something as innocent as, "You are a very attractive lady. Would you be interested in a date sometime?" would be construed as sexual harasment. It was so bad, if you seen an attractive woman at work, it is against the rules to even consider even asking her out on a date.



At that time, the buzz word, the one that got ratings was sexual harasment.



Global Warming is no different.



One year it is hot, the next is cold. One year has alot of storms, the next doesn't. Last winter, Ohio had 8 months that snowed. Using that logic, it sounds like we are starting to enter an ice age. Odds are, this winter will be warm and only have 2 months where it snows. Now we are looking at global warming.



Scientists and researchers look for any shread of evidence to support thier theory in a way to get money for research. If they ever found the truth, the money would quit coming in.



We know they wont allow that.



Great information.



The cost of oil is rising. Rich Stern, a while back, stated that he read somewhere that some scientists beleve that crude oil gets produced much faster then people think and there is no cause of concern of running out of oil. The earth produuces more then we use. Interesting theory. I wouldn't doubt it is true.





Tom
 

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