FlipTrac_511
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With Memorial weekend coming up I got to wondering: Are dealership sales better than X-plan?
Dealership sales vs X-plan
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TrainTrac
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No. Because under X-Plan, you might be eligible for additional rebates/incentives on top of what's available to the public. Also, under X-Plan, you don't pay any of the "document/processing/dealer" fees. These can be upwards of $500 depending on the dealer.
And I doubt you're ever going to negotiate the dealer down to a price near the X-Plan price. Remember, they'll try to negotiate a price for you that factors in the incentives. With X-Plan, there's the set price (usually a little below actual invoice) and then the incentives come off of that price.
And I doubt you're ever going to negotiate the dealer down to a price near the X-Plan price. Remember, they'll try to negotiate a price for you that factors in the incentives. With X-Plan, there's the set price (usually a little below actual invoice) and then the incentives come off of that price.
FlipTrac_511
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Thanks TrainTrac.
TrainTrac,
X-Plan does not eliminate Documentation Fees! ...Usually referred to as TT&L (Tax, Title & License Fees) The Dealer may waive some of them, but most dealers will still charge you the Documentation Fees (Usually the Taxes, plus an additional $50-$100 for the Title and License Fees). Some States limit how much a Dealer can charge in Document Fees...Texas is $50.
Dealer Stocking Fees, Advertisement Fees, Dealer Delivery Prep Fees, etc, and all the other Dealer BS Fees are not part of the X-Plan deal.
...Rich
X-Plan does not eliminate Documentation Fees! ...Usually referred to as TT&L (Tax, Title & License Fees) The Dealer may waive some of them, but most dealers will still charge you the Documentation Fees (Usually the Taxes, plus an additional $50-$100 for the Title and License Fees). Some States limit how much a Dealer can charge in Document Fees...Texas is $50.
Dealer Stocking Fees, Advertisement Fees, Dealer Delivery Prep Fees, etc, and all the other Dealer BS Fees are not part of the X-Plan deal.
...Rich
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TrainTrac
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Richard,
Maybe the rules have changed in the nine years since I've bought a new Ford using X-Plan. But prior to that, I bought three of them using X-Plan, from three different dealers, and was charged $0 in document/TTL fees. And each dealer told me they weren't allowed to charge a customer such fees that was using the AXZD-Plan Program.
Maybe the rules have changed in the nine years since I've bought a new Ford using X-Plan. But prior to that, I bought three of them using X-Plan, from three different dealers, and was charged $0 in document/TTL fees. And each dealer told me they weren't allowed to charge a customer such fees that was using the AXZD-Plan Program.
TrainTrac
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Apparently things have changed. Just found this online:
TrainTrac,
I don't know when you bought your last X-plan? Mine was in 2003, when I bought my last Sport Trac and you had to pay TT&L (Tax, Title & Licensing). Even under the X-Plan you have always had to pay the state "Tax" unless the state waived the taxes (very rare). The Title & Licensing Fees are the "Documentation fees" that are waived by the X-Plan. Most states regulate the maximum the dealer may charge for Documentation Fees to $50, $100 or even $150...I suspect that some may even be higher.
The other Fees waived by the X-Plan are all those annoying Dealer fees that they make up to boost their profits, like Stocking fees (just to have the car on their lot?), Dealer Prep fees (taking the plastic off the seats, vacuuming and washing the vehicle prior to delivery), Advertising Fees (often a flat fee added to each vehicle for advertising the dealership even when some dealers don't advertise?..they rely on the manufacturer's advertizing)....and there are a lot more. Actually, many dealers have stopped charging all those bogus fees because people are refusing to pay them and will go to a dealer that does not charge the fees beyond TT&L....it all depends upon how close other competing dealerships are.
...Rich
I don't know when you bought your last X-plan? Mine was in 2003, when I bought my last Sport Trac and you had to pay TT&L (Tax, Title & Licensing). Even under the X-Plan you have always had to pay the state "Tax" unless the state waived the taxes (very rare). The Title & Licensing Fees are the "Documentation fees" that are waived by the X-Plan. Most states regulate the maximum the dealer may charge for Documentation Fees to $50, $100 or even $150...I suspect that some may even be higher.
The other Fees waived by the X-Plan are all those annoying Dealer fees that they make up to boost their profits, like Stocking fees (just to have the car on their lot?), Dealer Prep fees (taking the plastic off the seats, vacuuming and washing the vehicle prior to delivery), Advertising Fees (often a flat fee added to each vehicle for advertising the dealership even when some dealers don't advertise?..they rely on the manufacturer's advertizing)....and there are a lot more. Actually, many dealers have stopped charging all those bogus fees because people are refusing to pay them and will go to a dealer that does not charge the fees beyond TT&L....it all depends upon how close other competing dealerships are.
...Rich
