Firearms purchase

[Josh Langel]

..and for the glove box... springfield 45 micro compact... [Broken External Image]:

 

[Thomas Rogers]

Mud, said "bought for when I walk the dog"...



...seems to me that you need a bigger dog or a better neighborhood.



Good luck. Hope you never have to use it. I guess it's better to have it and not use it, then not have it at all. Still, I can't understand living in an area and walking in an area where I "thought" I "needed" a handgun. But that's just me.



TJR

 

[Rich Stern]

Good luck. Hope you never have to use it. I guess it's better to have it and not use it, then not have it at all. Still, I can't understand living in an area and walking in an area where I "thought" I "needed" a handgun. But that's just me.

Maybe he should move to a neighborhood where they have signs saying "no guns allowed." Then he'll be 100% safe.

 

[Ryan Schaecher]

Maybe he should move to a neighborhood where they have signs saying "no guns allowed." Then he'll be 100% safe

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!



I needed that. Thanks.



STU-



I LOVE that picture. I have to know. Is that your photochop, did you find it somewhere or (God forbid) is it actually real!

 

[Wes Davis]

Poor TJR. Smart bad people don't commit crimes in bad neighborhoods. Smart bad people go to good neighborhoods to commit crimes. Especially the most dangerous crime of all, home invasion.

 

[Thomas Rogers]

Me said:

Poor TJR. Smart bad people don't commit crimes in bad neighborhoods. Smart bad people go to good neighborhoods to commit crimes. Especially the most dangerous crime of all, home invasion.

True enough, except for the poor TJR bit. And your argument might be compelling if there were more "smart bad people" that do petty crimes and random violent crimes. There aren't many of those types of people. The few, smart bad people that go to good neighborhoods are an overwhelming minority. I live in good 'burbs. Not much crime to speak of, definately not enough to fear one into buying a gun. Most "smart bad people", if truly smart, do their crimes sans a gun...because it's smarter to do so.



TJR

 

[Wes Davis]

LOL I was just teasing with the 'poor TJR' thing. My opinion is this, why not own a firearm (with the right training of course) and be prepared for the unlikely chance you may need it as opposed to not having a firearm and two thugs run into your garage behind you while the door is coming down. This scenario is the most popular for home invasion. It doesn't matter if they are armed with machine guns or screwdrivers. You must eliminate the threat with incapacitating force or accept the chance that you and/or your family will be killed. The only true argument I can see for not protecting yourself or your home with a firearm is if you have small children in the house and you are concerned with them somehow getting access to the gun. Of course with the right precautions this is not a concern at all but some people are just phobic about kids and guns under the same roof. In todays world if you are going to experience a violent crime it is going to be more likely than not that the bad guy is going to have a gun. You can purchase a very reliable firearm between 200-300$, your concealed carry permit will cost you approx. 150$(Florida), if you don't have experience and would like to take professional training lets say another 150$ for a week long class. This is a very small amount to pay for protecting life and property even if you never have to do so.



There I said all of that and didn't even bring up once it is your right as a citizen of the United States to own a firearm and your duty as a human to protect yourself, family and your property. Protecting yourself, family and property has been happening since the beginning of time, only the tools have changed.

 

[Ryan Schaecher]

There I said all of that and didn't even bring up once it is your right as a citizen of the United States to own a firearm and your duty as a human to protect yourself, family and your property. Protecting yourself, family and property has been happening since the beginning of time, only the tools have changed.

Amen.



Actually, good, reliable firearm could cost you far less than that. I have purchased (2) different handguns plenty capable of home defence (including one in .40S&W) for at or under $80 each.



Firearm: $200 (let's say)

CCW Classes: $100

Ammo: $22.00

License Fee: $100 (Arkansas)

Being Prepared: Priceless

you have small children in the house and you are concerned with them somehow getting access to the gun

I do (3 year old and 4 month old) and I am. I have a safe. It's closed, but it's usually (1) number away from opening... my daughter is too short to reach the knob, too weak to rack the slide and not coordinated enough for magazine insertion. In a few years I'll move up to the next step. She already knows that daddy's guns are not for touching or even looking at without daddy there. She has held my AK-47. She had held my 7.62 Nagant Revolver. She will be getting a .22 Cricket or Chipmunk around age 5 (I can't wait for a new range buddy!) (BTW, it is MY rifle until she is 18).



I can't wait for her prom date to show up in a few years.... 11 rifles in three years. At that rate, I'll have ~59 firearms (ok a bit excessive) on the living room floor that her momma, pa-pa and daddy will all be cleaning. Pa-Pa will probably have his there as well (total ~100 firearms... :lol. Add in Army Reserve uncle and Deputy Sherriff uncle and there will be a small arsenal being cleaned when her date comes.



Get the hint boy?

 

[Wes Davis]

I don't knock people that have concerns over firearms but I will say if they actually had any firearm experience most of those concerns would be alleviated. I can't begin to tell you how many females I have taken to the pistol range for the first time and they simply completely fall in love with the fact that a firearm is a powerful tool when it comes to equalizing a small women against a large male attacker. Not to mention that shooting sports are just fun and exciting. I grew up in West Virginia with guns stacked in the corners of the rooms and boxes of ammo sitting on the kitchen table. I have three brothers and sisters all of the same general age. Never once was there any type of gun incident in our family and this is because we had been around guns all of our lives, we knew what they were for and we knew what they could do. I have never pointed a gun at anyone or myself, I have never hit myself in the head with a hatchet, I have never put metal in the microwave, I have never burnt down anything with matches. With the proper training a gun is just a tool and you treat it with the respect that it deserves just like any other possibly dangerous tool you own.

 

[TomT]

I grew up the same way. I was taught to handle and respect a firearm at a very early age. Unfortunately that's probably not the norm with all gun owners. One of the reasons I support concealed handgun licenses is because people then HAVE to take a class on gun safety.

 

[Nelson Atwell]

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[Greg Stuhlsatz]

R Shek. I recieved that in a joke from a buddy of mine. I don't think it is real.

It would be cool though and possible.

 

[Thomas Rogers]

Me said:

I don't knock people that have concerns over firearms but I will say if they actually had any firearm experience most of those concerns would be alleviated.

I have just that experience, yet I still have concerns. Concerns not over whether or not a gun should be in my home, but concerns over guns in the homes of people who don't respect them and don't responsibly take care of and use them.



TJR

 

[KentheREALone Z]

Why would anyone need a gun? For protection, security, confidence? Afterall, once a crime is committed against you or your family, all one has to do is call the authorities and they'll come as quickly as possible, file a report, and the justice system will kick into action. We have some of the best law intepreters in the world. Providing your death was not a result of the crime, you may win a significant monetarty award by a jury of your peers, not remotely payable by the criminal. Or, you may see justice and have the criminal duly punished and imprisoned for the crime. Of course, due to overcrowding, the criminal will likely serve 10% of the sentence, walk free and enjoy the same freedoms you did, prior to the crime.

 

[CobraXP]

I hope that was sarcastic... :blink:

 

[KentheREALone Z]

YES. Though I often feel there are certain States in this country that believe in this, which is okay, cause I don't live in any of them.

 

[Thomas Rogers]

Yep, Ken, it seems everything is just dandy in NC:

 

[KentheREALone Z]

Knew I could get you cranked up. You're predictable.

 

[Thomas Rogers]

Ken, you make me laugh. A one like reply with a link to some stats is me "cranked up?" You haven't seen me cranked up.

 

[Josh Langel]

Mud, said "bought for when I walk the dog"...



...seems to me that you need a bigger dog or a better neighborhood.



Good luck. Hope you never have to use it. I guess it's better to have it and not use it, then not have it at all. Still, I can't understand living in an area and walking in an area where I "thought" I "needed" a handgun. But that's just me.

I don't need my gun in order to walk my dog, but I don't want to be stuck with a knife just because I wanted to think my neighborhood was safe. It's like riding with your seatbelt on... I don't need it to drive, because I think I am a safe driver and I won't get into an accident, but the reality is that OTHER people are bad drivers, so I better put it on... that's the same with a gun...I'd rather know that my chances of surviving an attack are greater than they were when I had nothing, because no matter how safe I THINK I am, I can still be victim to a crime if I am not prepared for it...



But then again, I need a bigger dog.