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Hello all,



I live in Quebec and probably some of you heard already, there was a shooting in montreal yesterday, and all that got me wondering what is the law for wepons in the USA



Here is a little complicated to get a gun legally but I guess not enough for those who really want to do some BAD.



Thanks for your inputs.



Tocho
 
Basically in the USA it is sorry to say that you can get any gun on the street if you have the cash.





Here in NY state.....



Legal guns, well you need to take a handgun saftey course and apply for a permit to have a handgun.



Rifles, anyone can buy and shoot, no permit is needed.





To hunt with any gun, it needs to have 6 inch barrel or over and you need a license.



try the link below, then click on Gun Laws to see state to state...
 
In Pa, they do background checks and all for handguns. If you have a carrying permit (as I do) you can get the handgun that day. As for rifles and shotguns, You can walk right out of the store with it. Why they do it that way, I don't know. Criminals will get the guns anywhere. Doesn't matter what laws there are about ownership. If they ever ban guns, then the only "armed" people will be criminals. It's sad that something like this happens and then some organization will use it to try and take my guns away. I didn't commit this atrocity, I don't rob banks, I don't go around shotting people. I use my guns to hunt and protect myself. Nothing more, nothing less.;)
 
A few years back I walked into a GA pawn shop and bought a new handgun with only a drivers license. A background check was conducted within 15 mins (don't know what kind of method was used), and I was on my way with the gun and ammo. I would have needed to apply for a permit to carry it but it was for my home. Not sure if laws have changed since then.
 
I feel the same was as Stonemeiser does. My firearms are legally purchased, I shoot for fun and for self defence. I will not depend on any gov't to protect me. the police do an awesome job but they arn't obligated to protect you. that responsibility falls on the individual. I believe that when the background on this fool lets released they will find that he illegally acquired the firearms. I do know that Canada has a very restrictive policy on firearms.



Have a good one



Bob
 
Or,,, work for just about any law enforcement agency and they will hand you a gun...



Every 5000 rounds through mine and I get a new one... LOL

I am on my third weapon in just under 5 years.



I fly into Canada all the time with mine on my person, but they normally will not let us off the plane. So in most cases, right back out of there in the same plane we got there on.



Every now and then we have to transfer planes so they escort us across the tarmac.
 
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We also got mandatory minimum sentences for using a firearm during the commission of an offence. 1 yr. for the first time and 3 yrs. for the second. This is on top of any other sentence. Not much of a deterrent, but it's a start and reinforces the No Guns Allowed mindset.

You use a firearm to do a crime, you get the extra time. :cool:
 
Can Trac, I think that law is funny as heck. They must think that by passing that law, a person who is going to kill someone is going to actually stop and think, "maybe I shouldn't do this with a gun, I will get life plus a year. Let me go get my knife, I don't want to spend more than my life in prison.". These lawmakers actually have a sence of humor.;)
 
Tocho, here's a summary, off the top of my head:



Can't buy any firearm if under 18. Can't buy a handgun if under 21.



Individual buying a long gun (rifle, shotgun) from licensed gun dealer: Federal background check via database (10 minute process conducted by dealer over the phone).



Individual buying a handgun from licensed gun dealer: Federal background check via database (10 minute process conducted by dealer over the phone), but the individual must reside in the same state as the dealer, or the handgun must be transferred via a licensed dealer in the buyer's state of residence.



Individual buying from another individual, both resident in same state: Varies by state. In Georgia, this is a private, unregulated transaction. However, you cannot knowingly sell a gun to someone who is barred from owning it, for example, to a felon or a youth, since it would be a federal violation, as well as a potential state violation. In other states with stricter laws, you cannot sell directly to another indivdiual. A licensed dealer must be involved and background check conducted.



Individual buying from another individual in different state: Gun must be transferred to a licensed dealer in the buyer's state of residence, for transfer to buyer, Federal background check conducted as if the buyer is buying from the dealer.



Misc. stuff:



Fully automatic weapons are legal in some states, but a special application, extensive background check, and special tax are necessary.



In many states, law abiding citizens can get a special class of federal license (Collector of Curios and Relics) that allows them to directly purchase guns classified as "collectible." These are usually guns 50+ years old, mostly from WW2, WW1, etc. To get this license, you go through an extensive federal background check, have to notify the local chief law enforcement officer, and maintain a collection logbook. You can't be in the business of selling these guns for a profit. You are subject to audit by the Bureau of Alchohol, Tabacco and Firearms.



Each of the 50 states has laws regarding ownership of guns, usually mentioned in the state constitution. Some, such as New Jersey, require a permit for each gun. Some, like California, have waiting periods (usually a week) from order to delivery.



Each of the 50 states has laws regarding the manner in which guns may be carried (open, concealed, etc.), and where they may be carried (not in courthouses, public buildings, political gatherings, etc.) About 2/3rds of the states have some sort of licensed concealed carry.



Many states have reciprocal agreements regarding a citizen licensed to carry a concealed weapon. A person licensed to carry a concealed weapon in Georgia has reciprocal privelages in about 20 other states.



But, the bottom line is this: No matter how many gun laws we have (and we have a lot), criminals don't obey them. They only limit what law abiding citizens do.



A good case in point relative to the tragedy that occured in Montreal: In most states, schools are off limits for carrying a concealed weapon. Think about what happened: The 20 innocent people who were assualted were all unarmed because they were obeying the law. The one armed person was a criminal.



A similar event occurred at Pennsylvania law school a few years ago. The attacker went on a rampage and was eventually subdued by law abiding gun owners who retrieved their guns from their vehicles. Harm was done during the time it took to get those guns from vehicles.



When you use the law to disarm good people, evil people arm themselves, regardless of law, and do harm to the unarmed good people.



They'll further toughen gun laws in Canada in response to this attack, and the net result is the good people become even more vulnerable.
 
I think Rich Stern nailed it on the head.

They'll further toughen gun laws in Canada in response to this attack, and the net result is the good people become even more vulnerable.

The Liberals spent atleast 2 Billion on gun control and it doesn't even work properly, the citizens need more power not less.
 
They'll further toughen gun laws in Canada in response to this attack, and the net result is the good people become even more vulnerable.



I have no doubt they will tighten up gun laws as well as crack down on illegal carries across the border. A lot of people in this country feel that less guns = safer environment and the politicians will respond to that.



They must think that by passing that law, a person who is going to kill someone is going to actually stop and think, "maybe I shouldn't do this with a gun, I will get life plus a year. Let me go get my knife, I don't want to spend more than my life in prison."



The real question is will it help discourage a pickpocket from carrying a gun? Or a cat burglar? Or a drug dealer?

 
As I'm Mr Stern does as well, I have my FFL03 (C&R License), thus every year the Feds send me an updated US Firearms Laws and Regulations book (about 1200 pages worth I belive). There is a Federal Section (which Rich has stated the synopsis of) and every state. Some states like Arkansas has less than 2 pages worth of laws, most of which are a repeat of the Federal laws. Other states (CA, IL, NJ, MA in particular) have larger sections. CA's in the last book was more than 60 pages alone. IL was like 40 (mostly because of Cook County, which had it's own sub-section).



If you have a question on a particular statue or state law, I'm sure one of us can offer some unofficial FYIO reading of the law. **I am not a lawyer and all I can offer is the actual law, no interpretation**
 
gun are easy to buy in louisiana fill out paper call for background check leave with gun

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We also got mandatory minimum sentences for using a firearm during the commission of an offence.



I think that's an excellent idea. If the damn USA courts would get tough on it's laws then there would be no problem with gun ownership. Unlike what stonemiser surmised, this does not necessarily mean killing some one, just having one in possession while committing any type of crime. Only I would make it a mandatory death sentence. THAT would get some attention.
 
US annual handgun fatalities: 10,800

European Union 1,260

Canada 816

Japan 22



WERE NUMBER ONE! AND IF YOU DISAGREE WE WILL SHOOT YOU.....:cool:

 
It's amazing that there are over 10,000 laws governing handguns at the city, county, state, and Federal levels in the USA, and we stil have no better control over the situation than we ever did.



lasik1,

Remember, those handgun fatalities in the USA also include police shootings of suspects. :rolleyes:



Purchasing firearms, especially handguns in Europe or Japan is far more complicated and expensive than in the USA, but so is buying and registering a car. The USA has a constitution that guarantees it's citizens the right to bare arms. Most of the 10K+ laws can only dance around the fringes.



...Rich



 
US annual handgun fatalities: 10,800

European Union 1,260

Canada 816

Japan 22



European casualties in the 20th century caused by genocidal tyrants who couldn't be stopped by their disarmed subjects: 30,000,000+



 
re: Gun Laws by Rich Stern,9/15/2006 22:12 CT



European casualties in the 20th century caused by genocidal tyrants who couldn't be stopped by their disarmed subjects: 30,000,000+



Oh, now that one left a mark, Rich. :lol::lol::lol:
 

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