HOUSE DEFEATS $700B BAILOUT; OIL DROPS BELOW $100/BARREL

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As the title says, the House of Representatives today defeated the SEVEN-HUNDRED BILLION DOLLAR bailout of Wall Street. <A HREF="http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D93GI2382&show_article=1">Breitbart article</A>



And, for the first time in -- how long? -- the price of crude oil has dropped to below $100 per barrel. <A HREF="http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D93GG4IO0&show_article=1">Breitbart article</A>



I don't know whether there's a direct correlation between the two events, but so far, both have made me smile. :)



Probably as a result of these events, Breitbart's site is really busy right now (1503 EDT), so you may get page load errors.

 
Jim,



Ya beat me to it. I was just going to post the defeat. Here's a link to the Yahoo News article. It just goes to show the peoples lack of confidence in President Bush.

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House defeats $700B financial industry bailout

By JULIE HIRSCHFELD DAVIS, Associated Press Writer



The House on Monday defeated a $700 billion emergency rescue for the nation's financial system, ignoring urgent warnings from President Bush and congressional leaders of both parties that the economy could nosedive into recession without it. Stocks plummeted on Wall Street even before the 228-205 vote to reject the bill was announced on the House floor.



Bush and a host of leading congressional figures had implored the lawmakers to pass the legislation despite howls of protest from their constituents back home. Despite pressure from supporters, not enough members were willing to take the political risk just five weeks before an election.



Ample no votes came from both the Democratic and Republican sides of the aisle. More than two-thirds of Republicans and 40 percent of Democrats opposed the bill.



The overriding question for congressional leaders was what to do next. Congress has been trying to adjourn so that its members can go out and campaign. And with only five weeks left until Election Day, there was no clear indication of whether the leadership would keep them in Washington. Leaders were huddling after the vote to figure out their next steps.



A White House spokesman said that President Bush was "very disappointed."



"There's no question that the country is facing a difficult crisis that needs to be addressed," Tony Fratto told reporters. He said the president will be meeting with members of his team later in the day "to determine next steps."



"Obviously we are very disappointed in this outcome," Fratto said. "There's no question that the country is facing a difficult crisis that needs to be addressed. The president will be meeting with his team this afternoon to determine the next steps and will also be in touch with congressional leaders."



Monday's mind-numbing vote had been preceded by unusually aggressive White House lobbying, and Fratto said that Bush had used a "call list" of people he wanted to persuade to vote yes as late as a short time before the vote.

 
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Video: <A HREF="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MGT_cSi7Rs">Democrats, in their own words, at a 2004 meeting covering up the Fannie Mae / Freddie Mac scam.</A> Republicans warn that a collapse is coming. Democrats are outraged that Republicans would say such a thing.



<B>IN 2004.</B>

 
This video presents a pretty good historical perspective on what caused this mess. It goes a bit fast so you may want to use the pause button to freeze it from time to time to read the headlines.



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But TrainTrac, isn't the answer <I>more</I> government intervention, socialism and social engineering -- you know, <B>Hope and Change</B>?



LOL!

 
Hey, just after I watched the video, it was pulled from YouTube due to a "copyright violation." (About 1535 EDT.)

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Nothing suspicious about that, huh?

 
I don't care what their party affiliation, Texas representatives that voted against it have my vote in November! The Free Enterprise system will correct itself. That is what it's doing right now.
 
Jim, they pull vids from youtube all the time because of copyrights....if a video starts to get a ton of attention, youtube sees it and scans it for copyright issues....
 
First, you vote the idiots out of office that are responsible for the problem, be they Democrat or Republican.



Second, the gov't isn't Constituionally authorized to be in the banking business. Get gov't out of it and let the free market sort itself out. Believe it or not, the free market actually works quite well when gov't stays out of the way.
 
Get gov't out of it and let the free market sort itself out.

But the video says that in 2003, Bush proposed a new agency to oversee Fannie and Freddie. Then in 2005, McCain proposed MORE government intervention by co-sponsoring the "Housing Enterprise Regulatory Act of 2005". And it clearly touts those as things that, at least in the eye of the video author, would have been good and helpful.



So which is it? Do you want more government regulation/intervention, or less? Make up your minds, you can't have it both ways...
 
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Ultimately, less government intervention. Bush and McCain are often not popular with conservatives for exactly these reasons.
 
I guess all I have to say about that one is "Thank God I'm not American" You guys are hated all over the world. LOL



It is a true shame though that what happens in your country, effects the whole world. I'm not sure if you have to live in a different country to realize what an idiot George Bush is, but I am rather surprised it took 8 years to catch up to him.



Oh well, I guess were not too far off just a little North. I hope you all are not effected by this and if you are I really do hope your goverment is there to help you.
 
Ryan,



You really don't have a clue if you think this problem was caused by George Bush.



Funny that you say we are hated all over the world, yet people are still literally dying to come here, and our country still continues to give more in foreign aid than any other country (last I heard).



Lastly, it is sad to see that you "LOL" when you say we are hated all over the world. That's sadistic.



All I can say is "take off, hoser!"



P.S. Also, Ryan, you said:



"It is a true shame though that what happens in your country, effects the whole world."



I know you don't really mean that. Because for about 2 1/2 centuries the growth and prosperity of the U.S. has helped countless countries and fueled their economies as well. You can't have the good without some bad now and then.



TJR
 
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