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TJR, yea, it doesn't have that turner, or at least I don't think it does, will check. Might even check my kids room. yes, they each have a 14" LCD in thier room also. But the youngest doesn't have cable. Thanks for the info, will get back to you by tmw.
 
Thanks guys for the excellent comments and opinions. As I said before, the MySt member board is one of the most diverse and well studied groups anywhere. Judging by your flat panel and DLP choices, regardless of type, are among the best in their class. Great reading guys. Aloha, Steve
 
My first big screen was a plasma. I decided on it after exhausting research and comparisons. It was a 42 inch Toshiba 720p and we had a lot of trouble with it.

A few months ago, I replaced it with another plasma, after more exhausting research.

I bought a Panasonic VIERA G10 Series TC-P50G10 50-Inch 1080p Plasma which is one of only two units that are THX certified.

I think I got a winner this time. The picture is amazing.

I didn't think I could ever watch more TV than I used to.

I was wrong.

 
Wow, what a timely discussion.....My wife and I were out yesterday looking at TVs and we've just about settled on the Samsung PN63B550. swshawaii, can you or anyone else with knowledge of this particular model elaborate on this sets performance? Any idea on what type of life span i can expect. I would say on average the set will be on for 3hrs/day. Also, do you recommend purchasing an extended warranty for the set? I'm NOT a fan of extended warranties but I don't want to discard it as option if you guys think it will be worth it. The 3 yr 100% in home service plan is $249. Thanks for your input...
 
Samsung is very good. I'm like you, don't do extended warranties. However, if they will also come program it under the warranty, I think it may worth it.
 
Attn: Lil Red

Samsung was one of the very few "upper tier" product lines we didn't sell. Seems certain mfgs. such as Samsung prefer their product in large box national chain stores and not small independent specialty stores, such as us. From the feedback, I've heard ONLY good things about ALL Samsung products, especially their LED panels. For a good resource of info, my suggestion would be Cnet, AudioReview.com, HomeTheaterReview.com or similar. Good luck, sounds like you're on the right track if you haven't made your purchase yet. Steve
 
Thanks swshawaii and Jerry, I have not made my purchase yet so I am continuing my research. The avsforum.com was an excellent referral and it looks like this is a great unit (especially for the price). More than likely Samsung is the way we will go.... Even the $249 for the 3yr in home warranty might be worth the investment.
 
Lil Red said:
Even the $249 for the 3yr in home warranty might be worth the investment.



No it won't.



Worthy investments should have high liklihoods of returns.



An extended warranty is typically a bad investment because there is a low liklihood of a return on your investment.



You are betting that the product will break; the warranty company is betting that it won't, or that if it does, that the "hassle factor" will be greater than your tolerance to obtain warranty service.



Do your research (as you are) buy a good brand with high quality and that comes with a 1 year warranty to cover infant mortality.



TJR
 
I'm still waiting for the DVDs format to evolve to the next format. I have not purchased ANY DVDs after being burnt badly on the 8-track tapes, cassette tapes, reel-to-reel, LPs, and videotapes. I do not own a DVD player.



I am so SICK of getting screwed by the planned obsolescence of the electronics industry.
 
Gavin,



Smart move, actually. I probably have $5k worth of DVDs, and have come to the conclusion that "on-demand" "storage in the sky" is the future, with pennies paid per viewing.



The whole concept of "owning" a "physical" copy of digital media will be looked at as totally crazy by our future generations.



TJR
 
TJR, thanks for the feedback regarding the extended warranty. I never buy them, but was leaning towards it because of my lack of detailed knowledge/confidence in the product. I think I'll set that $250 aside and throw it towards a good stock instead.
 
I agree that the extended warranties are a bad move--but I've heard of people using the carrot of possibly buying an extended warranty to get a significant discount. Don't know if it's urban legend, or if there's actually something to it--but it sounds interesting...



Basically, the idea was that the salespeople in the stores, and the stores themselves, tend to get significant bonuses for selling the warranties. So the customer goes in and says, "I want to get this TV, with an extended warranty, but I really can't go with that price. Is there anything you can do to reduce it?" The salesperson will then often significantly reduce the price, with the expectation of recouping their money (and getting a personal bonus) on the warranty. The salesperson then writes up the purchase, with both the TV and the warranty, and takes it up to the cashier for you to pay. However, at that time (preferably after the salesperson is gone, and even better if you have a written/printed copy of the price sheet), you then tell the cashier, "You know, I've changed my mind on the warranty. I'm going to pass on it, and just get the TV without it." The cashier rings it up without the warranty, and voila--money saved.



If the cashier, or the salesperson, balks at that, saying that the TV price is only good if the warranty is purchased, you point out that this is illegal price bundling, and that you're entitled to purchase the TV for the price quoted without having to buy something else. According to the people who told me this, if they continue to balk, this is something you can take to the police and/or an attorney and have enforced.
 
I'm holding out for an LED backlit LCD. I've seen some samples which are no different from current technology, and some that are amazing. Keep in mind that LED and OLED are two different things, LED referring to the backlight in current LCD models, and OLED refering to a display technology different from LCD. Problem is the current LED craze is bringing inflated prices along with it, but I figure we'll see those prices drop to compare with normal CCFL backlit LCDs soon since they are cheaper to produce, and the hype will eventually die down.



I'm a diagnosed video / audiophile and oddly more sensitive to motion-blur and flicker than most people. It is a real PITA. While researching I came across the Panasonic G10 / G15 series which I think is an awesome television. However when I saw it, I could see flicker, no one else in the room could.



I prefer the LCD for many superior qualities over plasma, however the quality of plasma hands down beats LCD (currently). With the increasing selection of 120/240Hz and LED backlights arriving, you're going to see a better and better picture that only top of the line plasmas can beat.



Your screen size is going to factor into your choice as well. Currently above 50" I'd say stick to a plasma.



Also, nothing beats seeing the tv with samples of broadcast TV AND a DVD to compare the quality. Hard to find that offered except in some high end showrooms.
 
http://www.vizio.com/about.aspx?cid=3544&id=1318



For the "next" platform, check out internet connected TV's. When you can change the input to your broadband connection to get movies on-demand from Netflix, Hulu, and Vudu, that blu-ray player and cable box (or at least HBO) come into question.



This will be another feature that gets hyped up with an inflated price tag. Currently 46" LCD's with LED and a internet jack are up in the $1700 range, when they should be in the $999 range.



Of course you could go online with a PC and a standard LCD, but some people don't care to go that route.



 
Bill V,



Not an urban legend. Most sales folks will drop the price in order to sell an extended warranty. The reason because their commission and the companies margins are higher on the extended warranty than on the product itself; and because what most people don't know is that ALL retail prices on big-box purchases are negotiable.



I had a salesman do that to me once. He offered me $100 off on a refrigerator if we took the extended warranty. I declined, but said I would still take the $100 off. At that point he had to do it, or admit that the extended warranty is just a money-making scheme for him and the company.



TJR
 
I have personally never cared for aftermarket service contract providers. (Extended Warranties) As previously mentioned there is a large incentive for salespeople to "add on" a warranty to a sale. The last straw for me was a valued customer for the last 20 years insisted on buying the "five year" extented warranty from Warrantech. Basically a TV version of a "totaled" TV. Labor intensive problem with the "engine". After countless HOURS on the phone he was instructed to cut out the serial number on the back panel (decal), and destroy the Mitsubishi "Diamond" DLP. After waiting TWO MONTHS without a follow-up from Warrantech, he was told NOBODY told him to discard the TV. He was speaking to a Warrantech MANAGER at he time, had his name and a telephone recording of THAT conversation. Needless to say, I have lost an extremely loyal customer and all his referrals. I DID discourage him from buying it. DO NOT BUY EXTENDED WARRANTIES. PURE PROFIT FOR THE SELLER AND VERY SELDOM USED.

A really worthwhile investment is a good power/line conditioner and protector such as Monster Power's HTS-1600 or above. $300 is a minimal investment given the benefits. Most power utility companies including Hawaiian Electric, will NOT assume liability for "Acts Of God", including lighting strikes and earthquakes. If you DO NOT use one, disconnect your equipment from the wall outlet BEFORE the power comes back up. Power supplies in most high current devices such as TV's and amplifiers are usually damaged by the surge caused by power restoration. I know from "losing" a very expensive Audio Research preamp.
 
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After looking at many, many TVs, I settled on the Panasonic Viera (Plasma). Could not be happier. Fantastic picture.
 
Toshiba is a rung-down from Samsung IMHO, but this seems like a good deal from Circuit City OnLine (aka TigerDirect)....40", true 1080 HD LCD for $599 if paying with Paypal, $619 otherwise.



If only 6" bigger for that price.

 

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