Frank,
I think I understand why people can't talk to you on this site, and many don't listen to you anymore...it's because you can't really understand what people are saying.
You said:
Regardless, I am sure you see that I discounted your top 100 companies are all Non Union claim.
I
never said the top 100 companies are ALL non-union. In my original post I simply stated that by your logic all of them would be unionized. Then, in the subsequent post I said:
"I suspect a majority of the companies in the full list aren't unionized."
Note how I never really claimed anything specific for you to discount, and most definiately didn't say what you said I said.
You did, however go on to say:
I know you are anti union TJR but I dont get it.
I'm not anti-union; I'm anti-extortion; anti-collusion; anti-protectionism (for the most part).
You also said:
If a person works Union he/she gets a better wage and of course benefits.
Are you trying to say that without unions there is always low pay? That without unions there would be no employee benefits? If so, I'm not buying.
You also said:
Why is that so un appealing to some. There must be an agenda there. You must have had a bad experience with a Union, or you are a shop owner who wants to give the bare minimum in wages to your people.
There is no agenda. Good companies are paying their people very well, giving them competitive wages and benefits without being unionized, and without the fear of a union coming in. The list of the top 100 I posted is evidence of that. Their motiviation to "do right" by their employee comes from only one form of extortion, and that is that happy, content employees make good employees...they don't need work strikes, or union reps to know that, and their employees are smart enough not to get their wages pick-pocketed by some union that wouldn't provide a return on their investment.
You went on to say:
I bet your shop never shows up on that top 100 list.
Thankfully I now work in an industry that is largely without unions. It is the IT industry.
Lastly you said:
Usually those companies who are on that list, are making so much money they would be remiss not to treat thier people well. They want to avoid any labor trouble because it would mess up a good thing.
All companies that are WORTH working for treat their employees well because they know that is the key to success. Any other company won't be around long. I submit this to be a "business fact"...
good companies value their employees and doing so is a key to their success. Most companies have figured that out.
I further submit that in today's world any company that hasn't figured that out, and that is still exploiting their employees won't last long. Sure, there probably still is a place for unions in the companies that haven't figured this out, but who wants to work for a company that treats their people poorly and their people have to pay the "school bully" to represent them to make sure they don't get beat on?
TJR