Military Leave Question???? Nelson maybe, anyone, looking for an answer.

[Kevin Palmer]

I am a Federal Employee. In the past I have pretty much turned in my Military Leave for pay as I do my Military Drills/time on my days off. Thus, not using any leave.



Our agency went to a different payroll system and now Human Resources is telling me that I need to turn in dates to justify my time and then they will allow me to turn in my excess Military Leave.



I know and can find in writing that we can have 30 days a year max, (normal circumstances, non-emergency situations). Well I am not going to use my 15 days this year. If they do not allow me to turn in 15 days then I will not be able to get the next 15 that are due to me.



What I am looking for is the reg that says I can turn it in for pay. I have seen it, I just can't find it.



Any help would be great.

THANKS!!!

 

[Brandon Hughes]

Coastie, I'll check with my PAC NCO, you Army?

 

[Kevin Palmer]

US Coast Guard, 23 years now....



Thanks Hyuz...

 

[Brandon Hughes]

being that leave is across the board the same program for all of us it should be a DOD reg maybe. With the time difference give me a day or two (probably no more than one day)

 

[Nelson Atwell]

The Coast Guard falls under the Department of Homeland Security doesn't it? I am not sure which DoD regulations apply, but I found this page at the US Coast Guard website.



Our leave policy (Air Force, and I assume the rest of the military departments) seems to differ quite a bit from yours. We still get 30 days a year, but can only sell leave for money upon re-enlistment. We can sell no more than 60 days in our career. We are allowed to carry no more than 60 days balance into a new fiscal year, unless we are in an area which prevents us from taking leave (such as being in Iraq for the year).

 

[Kevin Palmer]

Coast Guard is DOT, (Department of Transportation) which is housed by Department of Homeland Security.



I am pretty sure the leave policy is the same as far as Reserves goes though.



Headed to look at the link you found now, thanks...

 

[Gerald Pierce]

Kevin, Navy (active) is the same as Nelson described.... only sell 60 in a career.



I have sold 60 and lost 10 and still carry right at 60 normally.... right now down to 50 on the books since I PCS'd this summer and burned 30 in addition to the 15 I burned following deployment. Where I am now, it is pointless to take leave, we get so much time off.



I hope you find the answer you are looking for....

 

[Chuck Lake]

Coastie... It sounds to me that you would need to look into OPM guidance vs. Military regs. Since the leave policy is from your fulltime Federal job... I'm thinking the policy guidance would be through OPM.



I was a Title 5 DAFC in the past and have supervised Federal Technicians in the ANG. In both instances, military orders or pay documents (for IADT time) needed to be submitted with the federal payroll documents anytime you filed for military leave. I've never heard of anyone turning in their military days for pay but it is worth looking into. When my Technician transferred back over to AD Military... he had to use or lose all of his military days.

 

[Chuck Lake]

... and another link...

 

[Mark Grumpy]

Coastie,

this is from the DoD Pay Manual, (DoDFMR 7000.14R volumne 7A)

570106. Leave. A member of a Reserve Component who serves on active duty with pay for periods of 30 consecutive days or more accrues leave at the rate of 2-1/2 calendar days for each month of active service, excluding periods of:

A. Absence from duty without leave.

B. Absence over leave.

C. Confinement as a result of a court-martial.

The member is entitled to lump-sum settlement of unused accrued leave upon completion of a tour per Table 57-2. When consecutive tours are involved, a member may be reimbursed for unused accrued leave or it may be carried forward, at the member’s option, until completion of the final tour. When computing the length of a period of active duty, include allowable travel time. See also Chapter 35, paragraphs 350101 and 350102, and procedural instructions of the Military Services concerned. Refer to Tables 35-1 through 35-4 for specific entitlement criteria.

If you need more help let me know.



Edit - I just realized you may be talking about your weekend and annual tour leave accruals. It may take a little longer to find that one.



grump

 

[Mark Grumpy]

Coastie,

Link below will take you to the USCG pay manual. I'm having real issues opening it on my end so I don't know what it says. Anyway, it looks like chapter 10 is where you'll find the answer.



grump

 

[Mark Grumpy]

From the USCG Pay Manual, Chapter 12.



J. Lump Sum Leave (LSL) Payment for Unused Accrued Leave.

1. Entitlement. Members who perform active duty with pay for periods of 30 or more consecutive days, including travel time, are entitled to payment of LSL upon completion of the orders. This period may be covered by a series of orders requiring continuous service for a period of 30 days or more. Reservists being released from active duty, without immediate reentry onto active duty within 24-hours, are not allowed to carry a leave balance forward for payment at a later time. The reservist must either use the leave earned during the active duty period or sell it upon release. If the reservist does not use or sell the leave, the leave is lost.



2. Who May Not be Paid. Members performing active duty without pay, or who elected to receive a pension, disability compensation, or retired pay in lieu of active duty pay, and members who have sold 60 days leave since on and after 10 February 1976, are not entitled. See section 10-A-l.a.(2)

for an exception.



The next quote is from paragraph 10 A,3 and is titled Who May NOT Be Paid.

d. A member on AD or ADT for a period of less than 30 consecutive days.