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Personally, I think Farrakhan is responsible for the death of Martin Luther King Jr.



Years ago, when I was young, I hear a comment regarding that theory. i remember him saying something along the lines of "The nation is Islam is a nation. What happenss within a nation is not concern of any other nation, but our own."



Who knows the truth?





Tom
 
Wow, wouldn't THAT be ironic!

I really wouldn't be surprised. His level of ignorance, intolerance and blatant disregard for race relations actually makes that quite believeable to me. I really doubt that much would surprise me about what Farrakhan has done or will do in the future. He's the ultimate loose cannon since the press gives him a voice. If it was up to me, he'd be shipped down to Gitmo as a TERRORIST! There's really no room in this country for people that breed hatred like Farrakhan.
 
Personally, I think Farrakhan is responsible for the death of Martin Luther King Jr.



Years ago, when I was young, I hear a comment regarding that theory. i remember him saying something along the lines of "The nation is Islam is a nation. What happenss within a nation is not concern of any other nation, but our own."



Who knows the truth?



I think you might be confusing Dr. King with Malcom X. But, Farrakahan has long been suspected of having something to do with the assination of Malcom X. Here's an excerpt from Wikipedia.org's entry on Malcom X: "Some independent investigators familiar with details of the case have accused current Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan of having played a major role in the planning of the assassination while others claim Elijah Muhammad himself, fearing Malcolm's rising influence, ordered him killed. Farrakhan gave an interview to the CBS news program 60 Minutes in 1998 in which he denied the allegations."



I'd MUCH rather see "reparations" go to the american indians. We truly DID take something from them!



First of all, who do you mean by we when you say we truly did take something from them? Just as with the slave reparations issue, it's not right to visit the sins of the fathers on the sons. By "we" do you mean all white people? My ancestors immigrated to this country in the beginning of the 20th century, so they had nothing to do with what happened to American Indians or slavery. I don't imagine that there are too many people left alive today that had a direct influence on what happened to Indians, and I'm sure there's no one left alive today who had anything to do with slavery. Nor is there anyone left alive today who was actually. In fact, they're probably several generations removed from slavery by now.



I think in a way, many Indian tribes are now getting their "reparations". They're raking in millions of dollars from the white man at their casinos. Capitalism at it's finest. More power to 'em!
 
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All of the people out there are saying that the KKK has no right to parade through Toledo, but FaraKKKhan and his Band Of Million Merry Men can march on DC?



Hypocracy at it's finest. One racist organization has the right to free speech because they are black, the other has no rights at all, because they are white.



Like it or not, they are all Americans (to some degree anyways). FaraKKKhan can say what he wants, but they we have the absolute right to criticize what he says (see "I visited the Mother Wheel in outter space" comments). This has nothing to do with him being back, purple brown or white but the fact that he is out there blaming another race for "his people's" problems. His people's problems are the fact that they have people like him, Sharpton, Jackson and Schumer spouting off at any chance they get. At least one of them has a baby from an affair, yet he is still reguarded as a moral man. Rev. James Baker had a little problem and he was quickly and publicly chastised, ridiculed and forced from public life. Amazing, eh?



 
Tom R. wrote "A White Miss America contest". ? Or what if you tryed to start a White Enterainment Television network.



African American indeed, my Father was Welsh and my Mother was Hungarian, ? does that make me a Wel/Hung American. :wacko:
 
Andy,



You are right. It was Malcom X, not MLK Jr. Sorry aboout the mix-up and thanks for the clarification.





Tom
 
Tom R. wrote "A White Miss America contest". ? Or what if you tryed to start a White Enterainment Television network.



And how about a NAAWP? Or a National Honky College Fund? :wacko:
 
Believe it or not, there actually is and organization called the NAAWP. I just googled the acronym and found it.
 
The NAAWP is probably dismissed with the KKK, the Neo-Nazis and other white, racist groups. That's probably why we've never heard of 'em. It's not politically correct to openly "advance" the white man's cause...if you do, you're racist. It's that simple.

Andy, you're right. Occasionally my brain goes to sleep before my fingers. hehe

Did you guys see where one city allowed a Neo-Nazi group to have a demonstration this past weekend? (The city name is escaping me at the moment). Anyway, for once, the Neo-Nazi group didn't start the trouble, but the anti-protest protesters started getting violent and within no time, the whole neighborhood was being destroyed. People were breaking into houses, beating each other, destroying property, etc.! It was a huge mess. The city was stupid enough to only send 150 police officers to deal with the demonstration. I'm not sure why the blacks think that it's ok for the "million man march" to happen, but not for the neo-nazis to march. Why should there be such a double standard? If they both plan to march peacefully, then they both must be allowed under the freedom of speech and freedom of assembly that our constitution provides. If we AGREE or DISAGREE doesn't matter.

I'd like to go on record to say that I am not racist, nor do I agree with the KKK, Neo-Nazis or any other low-rent, white-trash racist groups. They're part of the problem as much as Farrakhan. It just really bugs me that Farrakhan is given a voice by the media. It's a shame that such ignorance and intolerance can go out over the airwaves and reach our impressionable children.

This country won't be destroyed from the outside (terrorists, other military forces, etc), it will be destroyed from within (racism, political correctness, ignorance, etc). Athens was destroyed from within their own walls by men who were looking out for their own interests and not for the interests of the Athenian people...as was the Soviet Union and the Roman Empire itself!

 
I'd like to go on record to say that I am not racist, nor do I agree with the KKK, Neo-Nazis or any other low-rent, white-trash racist groups. They're part of the problem as much as Farrakhan.



I want to go that record also. And I figured if it was OK for George Jefferson to use the "H" word, then it's OK if I do too. :D
 
Toledo, Ohio was the city/state that had the neo-nazi march.

They're showing BLACKS destroying their own neighborhoods, throwing rocks at ambulances, policemen and other public service workers. WHY would you throw rocks at an AMBULANCE?? I reeeeeally cannot understand destroying my OWN community!?! What does that accomplish?



Neo-Nazis are idiots. Don't they realize that hitler was defeated 50 years ago? The Nazi philosophy didn't work back then, what in the world makes them think it would work now?? Some people are just TOO stupid and it amazes me that they have made it to adulthood.



The "H" word?
 
Baron,



You are correct. When the USA falls, it will be from within and not from someone outside.





Tom
 
Yeah, they're idiots. But even idiots have First Amendment free speech rights. It appears that they were conducting a peaceful, non-violent march and those in opposition reacted violently.



The best thing the people who disagreed with the Neo-Nazis could have done was just ignore the Neo-Nazis. By reacting the way they did, the protestors gave the Neo-Nazis much more free publicity and media coverage than they ever would have gotten had no riots erupted.
 
Very very true Andy. I guess it was just another excuse to destroy their OWN neighborhood. I wonder what they thought they'd accomplish by destroying their neighbors' houses? I really can't understand their reasoning for that. Rioting LOOKS fun I guess. haha

If that kind of crap broke out around here and people started destroying houses, there would be a LOT of dead rioters on the street. I am from a small town in rural Missouri, where everyone has guns. It would be a bloodbath! It wouldn't matter if the rioters were black, white, purple, green or blue!

Hillbillies with guns...scary thought of the day. ;)



By the way, for some interesting reading, check out the link I post at the bottom. It's the crime records from the NAAWP. I was rather surprised when I read it, it's the total opposite of what I thought it would be, after hearing from the liberal media for the past year.



 
Here's what's really sad:



There were, at most, about 20 of the Neo-Nazis marching (again, in a non-violent, peaceful manner, exercising their First Amendment right to free speech). When the chaos broke out, they left the scene. But police arrested 114 people connected with the riots. Who were the real idiots in here?:huh:
 
Here's a prime example of the "Welfare state" mentality, watch the clip and you will see what I mean. (Be forewarned, the guy uses some profanity before getting cut off)



It boggles my mind about his comments of "modern day slavery" and "give us what we deserve".



There is an article that I cannot find yet that discusses previous disasters in this country and the responses from US Presidents about how they cannot find anywhere in the constitution that the US Goverment should pay to rebuild private citizens property lost in the different disasters.
 
Good video Tom. Very good illustration of exactly why the government has already done too much, and is still doing too much. To that un-named man, the Federal Government provides free schooling, free bus rides to school, free lunch if you qualify...that will get you a high school diploma, which can get you places. If higher education is your outlook, there are lots of free rides to be had from the government (Military), private corporations, etc. The government provides everyone an equal oppurtunity (even that can be argued against, which I'm not denying) to get an education and to get ahead. If the people don't take those opputunities, they have no one to blame but themselves.



Ask not how your government let you down, but how you let yourself down.
 
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Tom R.,



Here it is. I posted it in an earlier thread.



IS IT PERMISSIBLE?

BY WALTER E. WILLIAMS

WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 21, 2005



IS IT PERMISSIBLE?



Last week, President Bush promised the nation that the federal government will pay for most of the costs of repairing hurricane-ravaged New Orleans, adding, "There is no way to imagine America without New Orleans, and this great city will rise again." There's no question that New Orleans and her sister Gulf Coast cities have been struck with a major disaster, but should our constitution become a part of the disaster? You say, "What do you mean, Williams?" Let's look at it.



In February 1887, President Grover Cleveland, upon vetoing a bill appropriating money to aid drought-stricken farmers in Texas, said, "I find no warrant for such an appropriation in the Constitution, and I do not believe that the power and the duty of the General Government ought to be extended to the relief of individual suffering which is in no manner properly related to the public service or benefit."



President Cleveland added, "The friendliness and charity of our countrymen can always be relied upon to relieve their fellow citizens in misfortune. This has been repeatedly and quite lately demonstrated. Federal aid in such cases encourages the expectation of paternal care on the part of the Government and weakens the sturdiness of our national character, while it prevents the indulgence among our people of that kindly sentiment and conduct which strengthens the bonds of a common brotherhood."



President Cleveland vetoed hundreds of congressional spending measures during his two-term presidency, often saying, "I can find no warrant for such an appropriation in the Constitution." But Cleveland wasn't the only president who failed to see charity as a function of the federal government. In 1854, after vetoing a popular appropriation to assist the mentally ill, President Franklin Pierce said, "I cannot find any authority in the Constitution for public charity." To approve such spending, argued Pierce, "would be contrary to the letter and the spirit of the Constitution and subversive to the whole theory upon which the Union of these States is founded."



In 1796, Rep. William Giles of Virginia condemned a relief measure for fire victims, saying that Congress didn't have a right to "attend to what generosity and humanity require, but to what the Constitution and their duty require." A couple of years earlier, James Madison, the father of our constitution, irate over a $15,000 congressional appropriation to assist some French refugees, said, "I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents."



Here's my question: Were the nation's founders, and some of their successors, callous and indifferent to human tragedy? Or, were they stupid and couldn't find the passages in the Constitution that authorized spending "on the objects of benevolence"?



Some people might say, "Aha! They forgot about the constitution's general welfare clause!"Here's what James Madison said: "With respect to the two words 'general welfare,' I have always regarded them as qualified by the detail of powers connected with them. To take them in a literal and unlimited sense would be a metamorphosis of the Constitution into a character which there is a host of proofs was not contemplated by its creators."



Thomas Jefferson explained, "Congress has not unlimited powers to provide for the general welfare, but only those specifically enumerated." In 1828, South Carolina Sen. William Drayton said, "If Congress can determine what constitutes the general welfare and can appropriate money for its advancement, where is the limitation to carrying into execution whatever can be effected by money?"



Don't get me wrong about this
 
I'm sorry to say that when was the last time you saw 200 white men/boys kicking in doors to local businesses or their neighbors' homes? As I recall, the only time that has happened in recent years has been whenever the WTO is meeting in a city, and the rioting is not to get a new 42" Plasma TV, but rather to protest the practices of the WTO (I am not picking a side on that one at the moment). During these protests some people do take advantage of the situation, but not like what we saw in Toledo, New Orleans, Los Angeles, etc.



How can these people say that taking a TV from a store is getting their just desireves from "the man"?



Riot in my rural Arkansas community please... a couple of thousand rifle rounds and a half dozen rifles await you, plus whatever my neighbors have (and that's quite a bit!).



I am not advocating violence vs violence, but step foot in my yard with a brick in your hand and I'll see that as a threat against my family and my property.



 

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