NASA Scientists Claims to have Found Alien Life
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Thomas Rogers
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Hugh,
Yupper! Saw that yesterday. Was only a matter of time. Sure, there will be those that dismiss this, and say that we are "still alone", but to me, this is VERY BIG NEWS!
TJR
Yupper! Saw that yesterday. Was only a matter of time. Sure, there will be those that dismiss this, and say that we are "still alone", but to me, this is VERY BIG NEWS!
TJR
I dismiss it. I don't know if we are 'still alone' or not. I think if life was common enough that it exists on a meteorite then we would have found it on Mars/Moon.
I flop back and forth. The odds seem in favor of life being somewhere, on the other hand it took a very special set of factors for life to catch hold on earth, especially intellegent life.
I flop back and forth. The odds seem in favor of life being somewhere, on the other hand it took a very special set of factors for life to catch hold on earth, especially intellegent life.
Johnny O
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There's an illegal alien occupying the White House right now. (j/k :grin: )
Thomas Rogers
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Will e,
We may still find signs of past on the Moon or Mars one day. The question when we find it, if we find it, will be what was the origin of that past life. For example, did it live and grow on Mars or were the fossilized remains transplanted there is conjectured with this given asteriod hitting Earth.
You addressed your own issue on why life on Earth but seemingly on Mars. The right conditions are very, very improbable. For them to exist on multiple planets in the same solar system is unlikely...at least for a solar system our size. However, given all the galaxies, and all the solar systems, the likelihood of another "class M" planet (Star Trek speak for a planet with all the right conditions for sustaining humanoid life), somewhere, gets better.
TJR
We may still find signs of past on the Moon or Mars one day. The question when we find it, if we find it, will be what was the origin of that past life. For example, did it live and grow on Mars or were the fossilized remains transplanted there is conjectured with this given asteriod hitting Earth.
You addressed your own issue on why life on Earth but seemingly on Mars. The right conditions are very, very improbable. For them to exist on multiple planets in the same solar system is unlikely...at least for a solar system our size. However, given all the galaxies, and all the solar systems, the likelihood of another "class M" planet (Star Trek speak for a planet with all the right conditions for sustaining humanoid life), somewhere, gets better.
TJR
Bud Williams
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They have found life forms on earth in the most inhospitable places, places void of light, oxygen, places with sulpuric acid. so to say that life can only exist in ideal conditions such as 72 degrees, 20 percent oxygen may not be realistic. I believe there are other life forms out there, I also believe there are alien life forms visiting us...am I crazy?!?! The majority of the population also believe this if you consider recent polls. I have heard that past Presdients wanted to know the truth about aliens, and were not granted the information. I also think that George H.W. Bush was one of the few that knew the truth. The truth is out there....and yes there is any alien in the White House:bwahaha:
Bo Loo
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He's followed up with this article:
TomT
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Man if I had a $1 for every time I've been probed by aliens. :banana:
Mark K 2
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EddieS'04
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It is the begining of the PODS!!!!!!!! Dont go to sleep......:bwahaha:
Johnny O
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budfromballground said:
According to an account I heard a while back, shortly after he became President Bill Clinton tasked Associate Attorney General and FOB Webster Hubbell with finding out if UFO's and aliens were real and the govt was covering it up. Hubbell checked into it at the highest levels of the Air Force and was assured that there was no evidence of UFO's or aliens. Of course that doesn't mean they were telling him the truth.....
I am waiting for scientist to find "Intelligent Life" on other planets. Maybe then they will know how to find it on earth...:grin:
I think the late Dr. Carl Sagen calculated that there are probably over a billion planets just in our Milkyway galaxy that could contain intelligent life. I think ETs have been to earth many times even thousands of years ago. Even the Catholic church now recognizes that there is a strong probability that intelligent life exist elsewhere in the universe...and that could possibly throw a number of religions doctrines down the drain.
...Rich
I think the late Dr. Carl Sagen calculated that there are probably over a billion planets just in our Milkyway galaxy that could contain intelligent life. I think ETs have been to earth many times even thousands of years ago. Even the Catholic church now recognizes that there is a strong probability that intelligent life exist elsewhere in the universe...and that could possibly throw a number of religions doctrines down the drain.
...Rich
EddieS'04
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But how do we know they werent given the same instructions in biblicaly form. God is God....
I dont intend to cover the what about the other religions. I dont believe in them. Not because of my training. But it took me 37yrs to discover the true one.
EddieS'04
In Memoriam 1950-2022
Nah!! Im not so PC enlightened to ignore the truth. I believe and I know the spirit man reveals the truth to me everyday. If that make me a Holy roller or bible thumper so be it.
IMO, those that talk about enlightenment and leaving Christ and the Bible out of it, are fooled.
Enlightenment is fords new boss 302. That will wear off. 2yrs from now new tech will drowned it out.
Truth is the word of God. It will not and has not changed.
Only diputes between denomenational theologians. But the truth is still the same, neverchanging.
Eddie,
Even the Bible has changed (old Testiment vs new Testiment) It has also been translated to different languages so many times that even the Theologians argue about the true meaning of some of the words and interpretation of some passages.
Everything in the Bible can be 100% true, and yet God could still be another highly advanced being from some other planet who can do, and has done everything attributied to him in the Bible. How would that change our belief system? I know it would not change mine.
I am also a Christian and believe in God, so I am not disrespecting your beliefs, again, just offering food for thought.
...Rich
Even the Bible has changed (old Testiment vs new Testiment) It has also been translated to different languages so many times that even the Theologians argue about the true meaning of some of the words and interpretation of some passages.
Everything in the Bible can be 100% true, and yet God could still be another highly advanced being from some other planet who can do, and has done everything attributied to him in the Bible. How would that change our belief system? I know it would not change mine.
I am also a Christian and believe in God, so I am not disrespecting your beliefs, again, just offering food for thought.
...Rich
One time I stuck my hand into my fish tank. Theresa said that, I bet those fish think the hand of god came into their world.
For all we know, as Righard L said, we are noting more that a project from some being from another planet. If course, we would never know any better and for all purposes, that person is God, namely our God.
We only know what is revealed to us. If it has not been revealed, than we do not know it and we shouldn't think we know it if it hasn't been revealed.
Tom
For all we know, as Righard L said, we are noting more that a project from some being from another planet. If course, we would never know any better and for all purposes, that person is God, namely our God.
We only know what is revealed to us. If it has not been revealed, than we do not know it and we shouldn't think we know it if it hasn't been revealed.
Tom
Rick Kent
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Hold the phone, Nelly.....
NASA disavows its scientist's claim of alien life
"These are not the droids you are looking for":grin:
NASA disavows its scientist's claim of alien life
"These are not the droids you are looking for":grin:
Thomas Rogers
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Much of the Bible would change if:
a. the Big Bang theory is correct and our galaxy formed over 100s of billions of years, and our planet over 5 billion years. That shoots a hole in the whole 6 day creation, and the "literal" interpretation of a 24 hour day.
b. dinosaur fossil records and carbon dating are considered accurate. If so, then there would be no credible evidence that, and only evidence against the fact that man and dinosaurs lived together.
c. man evolved from a more primative form. If so, that shots the whole "in Gods image" and story of Adam all to hell.
Sure, the Bible is filled with truths, but science again and again marches forward and find things that those that have followed the Bible for centuries then either have to dismiss as fact from that book, or reshape.
I'm not saying that's bad. Heck, there is a pretty good book on the subject called "The Science of God."
Take a look at the anti-evolution, new Earthers and what they believe, and their STRICT interpretation of Genesis, and you will get what I am talking about.
For them, for their Bible, if these things come to pass as TRUE, it changes their Bible radically.
And, that is why, I once again repeat, there are very few absolutes. Yes, we can say that for ourselves and the way we follow the Bible this news changes nothing. That's not true for everyone, though. Partly because of the absolute nature in which THEY view things.
For example, I had a Christian friend that said the he believes the earth is only around 6,000 years old because the Bible says so, even though there is monumental evidence against that claim. He said: "I have to believe it, because if the Bible is wrong about that, then what else is it wrong about?" He said: "The Bible tells me what is so, and what I should believe in. I don't get to pick and choose. That power is for God."
Literal, strict, absolute interpretations of a book written by a church wishing to control people and get their money to me seems like a bad idea. The book is good. Heck, its probably the best book ever written, as it claims to be, but every word and gem...a pearl. Sorry, not living my life that way. Not every word is an instruction.
I just hope that one day, after the apocolypse, some newly evolved, intelligent species doesn't find an "IRS 1040 Instructions" manual in some archeological dig and prop it up as its Bible.
LOL
TJR
a. the Big Bang theory is correct and our galaxy formed over 100s of billions of years, and our planet over 5 billion years. That shoots a hole in the whole 6 day creation, and the "literal" interpretation of a 24 hour day.
b. dinosaur fossil records and carbon dating are considered accurate. If so, then there would be no credible evidence that, and only evidence against the fact that man and dinosaurs lived together.
c. man evolved from a more primative form. If so, that shots the whole "in Gods image" and story of Adam all to hell.
Sure, the Bible is filled with truths, but science again and again marches forward and find things that those that have followed the Bible for centuries then either have to dismiss as fact from that book, or reshape.
I'm not saying that's bad. Heck, there is a pretty good book on the subject called "The Science of God."
Take a look at the anti-evolution, new Earthers and what they believe, and their STRICT interpretation of Genesis, and you will get what I am talking about.
For them, for their Bible, if these things come to pass as TRUE, it changes their Bible radically.
And, that is why, I once again repeat, there are very few absolutes. Yes, we can say that for ourselves and the way we follow the Bible this news changes nothing. That's not true for everyone, though. Partly because of the absolute nature in which THEY view things.
For example, I had a Christian friend that said the he believes the earth is only around 6,000 years old because the Bible says so, even though there is monumental evidence against that claim. He said: "I have to believe it, because if the Bible is wrong about that, then what else is it wrong about?" He said: "The Bible tells me what is so, and what I should believe in. I don't get to pick and choose. That power is for God."
Literal, strict, absolute interpretations of a book written by a church wishing to control people and get their money to me seems like a bad idea. The book is good. Heck, its probably the best book ever written, as it claims to be, but every word and gem...a pearl. Sorry, not living my life that way. Not every word is an instruction.
I just hope that one day, after the apocolypse, some newly evolved, intelligent species doesn't find an "IRS 1040 Instructions" manual in some archeological dig and prop it up as its Bible.
LOL
TJR
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Willie Anglin
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The Bible, 66 books written by over 44 authors over thousands of years of which the last originally penned text was written over 1900 years ago. The largest selling book of all time. In it you will find life.
II Cor 4
3But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost:
4In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.
I Tim 6
20O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called:
21Which some professing have erred concerning the faith. Grace be with thee. Amen.
II Cor 4
3But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost:
4In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.
I Tim 6
20O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called:
21Which some professing have erred concerning the faith. Grace be with thee. Amen.
