TomT
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And kids never play "smear the queer" anymore. I guess it's considered to dangerous and not politically correct.
OT: Mass Elementary School Bans Tag
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TomT & Rich Stern, Amen. And, in the words of Lou Dobbs "politicaly correct speech is just a form of speech control".
Roy Smith
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Well look at Mass.,they let queers marry,so what would you expect?? Going the way of Calif.:angry:
Chet 02
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Leno did a funny bit on the banning last night. What about the last kid that was 'it' just before the banning? Now he's stuck being it for the rest of his life. 
Richard Kolb
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I played tag when I was a kid, and dodge ball, but then I wasn't the popular kid so I got a lot of crap during those games too. I turned out ok, just don't check the deep freeze in my basement.
On the other hand, I had one accidental collision when I was in school, and it was during a supervised race on school spirit day. I ended up breaking my eye socket, and that was right in front of the principal who was stupervising.
On the other hand, I had one accidental collision when I was in school, and it was during a supervised race on school spirit day. I ended up breaking my eye socket, and that was right in front of the principal who was stupervising.
Gavin Allan
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Kids today are sissies! When I went to school, we:
- played on monkey bars, merry-go-rounds, and teeter-totters on an ASPHALT playground
- held mercury in our hands in Science class and watched it roll back and forth
- experimented with asbestos and tried to burn it in Science class, even fluffing it up into fuzz to get the small fibers floating in the air
- brought our .22 caliper rifles and various handguns to school to shoot at the rifle range at the ROTC building down the street (no kidding!)-- I'd get on the school bus in the morning with my .22 in a padded case, along with 200 rounds of ammo, store it all in my locker all day, and then take it out after school and walk with the rest of the Rifle Club members down the street to the ROTC building at a nearby college to shoot like crazy at targets on day each week!
- of course we all had pocket knives since 8 years old on up.
Things sure have changed.
- played on monkey bars, merry-go-rounds, and teeter-totters on an ASPHALT playground
- held mercury in our hands in Science class and watched it roll back and forth
- experimented with asbestos and tried to burn it in Science class, even fluffing it up into fuzz to get the small fibers floating in the air
- brought our .22 caliper rifles and various handguns to school to shoot at the rifle range at the ROTC building down the street (no kidding!)-- I'd get on the school bus in the morning with my .22 in a padded case, along with 200 rounds of ammo, store it all in my locker all day, and then take it out after school and walk with the rest of the Rifle Club members down the street to the ROTC building at a nearby college to shoot like crazy at targets on day each week!
- of course we all had pocket knives since 8 years old on up.
Things sure have changed.
Pat Freeman
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LOL! Sorry, it's hard to separate my sarcasm from my real feelings some times.
Thomas Rogers
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Was IMing with my brother...that one building K-12 school I mentioned in my hometown, well it had a serious "touch football" injury last week.
Seems the 9th and 10th grade boys were playing touch football during gym class. Trash talk started, physical escalation commenced, and one of the bigger kids "clotheslined" another...tearing neck ligaments and pretty much almost breaking the other kids neck.
The mom of the kid (actually a girl I knew from highschool, a couple years younger than me), said that she isn't going to sue as long as the gym teacher is fired. Seems the gym teacher wasn't watching the kids and the escalation at all, but was trying to score some time, sideline with a young elem school teacher...all of which was described by another teacher that was first on the scene. It's a mess.
I suspect the gym teacher will be fired...but will probably teach somewhere else in the future, which wouldn't have been the case if the kid died.
TJR
Seems the 9th and 10th grade boys were playing touch football during gym class. Trash talk started, physical escalation commenced, and one of the bigger kids "clotheslined" another...tearing neck ligaments and pretty much almost breaking the other kids neck.
The mom of the kid (actually a girl I knew from highschool, a couple years younger than me), said that she isn't going to sue as long as the gym teacher is fired. Seems the gym teacher wasn't watching the kids and the escalation at all, but was trying to score some time, sideline with a young elem school teacher...all of which was described by another teacher that was first on the scene. It's a mess.
I suspect the gym teacher will be fired...but will probably teach somewhere else in the future, which wouldn't have been the case if the kid died.
TJR
TomT
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I had a cousin that died playing Tag. Sadly he's "it" for eternity.
L Roberts
Member
"They need to make it mandatory to have the teachers watch the kids during recess."
Rodger,
I trust that this statement was tongue-in-cheek! The days when most teachers had time to sit on the playground went out with the 8-track tape. I know because I have been one for eighteen years now. Unlike those who work in other professions, there are no "fifteen minute breaks" in teaching. Elementary school teachers (in TN at least) only in recent years earned the right to eat our 20-minute lunch without having to referee the students as we shovel down our food! From the time the bell rings at eight until it rings again at 3:10, with the exception of that very short lunch "hour," our eyes almost always have to be our group of kids. Our litigious-happy society has made it so that we can't even take a much-needed restroom break without making arrangements with some other teacher to watch two classes or without simply taking a BIG risk that a student will stick another with a pencil, trip and fall, or much worse, while we, like everyone else, have to obey nature. Every year more parental tasks are heaped on us. We have to pick through head after head of hair, for example, each time a student comes up with lice, which can be fairly often. We have to give medicine. We have find extra time somewhere in the day to work with the students who don't have their homework, deal with students whose parents won't buy them the supplies they need, talk with the counselor about concerns for students with unwashed clothes, sudden changes in demeanor, brises, and on and on. So, when a rare time like recess comes along when the teacher can actually leave the four walls of her room for a few minutes without worrying about being sued, she really desperately needs, many days, to find a quiet spot, put her head down, and vegetate for those few precious minutes just to recharge her batteries for when the kids return. Instead, she will likely be happy to visit the restroom first. Then she may be visiting the counselor or principal. Or she might be making one of the phone calls to parents/guardians that she needs to make because of problems with students. Just one of those calls, though, can eat up all the time she has because far too many parents won't answer the phone when they see the school number on the caller ID, have given a false number in the first place, or have had their phone disconnected due to not paying the bill. Like most such tasks, most of these things will wind up being done for no pay on the teacher's personal time after school hours. Now, really, how many professionals do you know who have to go at it like that all day long, for no extra pay? Or would work in the broken-down, moldy buildings we do at such risk to our health? And I'm not going to even mention NCLB, which takes absolutely none of this into account either. I'll bet Mr. Bush has never spent an hour combing through hair seeking out nits when he was supposed to be working miracles in reading and math.
Truth is, just about any elementary teacher would LOVE to have the luxury of sitting and watching her kids play if it would relieve some of the rest of the load she bears. Sadly, though, this would only extend her workday further past school hours.
Sorry, folks. If you check my record, you'll see I don't say much. But it seems that someone, even the President, is always coming up with more and more things we should do. Some of it, such as giving injections to diabetic students, which was seriously considered recently, is even dangerous to our health.
Thanks to those of you who placed the blame and responsibility for the loss of the tag game on our "me"-centered society. I know that even with all the documented problems with education we see in the media everyday, many people still think teachers have it made with their little 8:00-3:10 job and all that time off in the summer. Truth is, it
is still a rewardi
Rodger,
I trust that this statement was tongue-in-cheek! The days when most teachers had time to sit on the playground went out with the 8-track tape. I know because I have been one for eighteen years now. Unlike those who work in other professions, there are no "fifteen minute breaks" in teaching. Elementary school teachers (in TN at least) only in recent years earned the right to eat our 20-minute lunch without having to referee the students as we shovel down our food! From the time the bell rings at eight until it rings again at 3:10, with the exception of that very short lunch "hour," our eyes almost always have to be our group of kids. Our litigious-happy society has made it so that we can't even take a much-needed restroom break without making arrangements with some other teacher to watch two classes or without simply taking a BIG risk that a student will stick another with a pencil, trip and fall, or much worse, while we, like everyone else, have to obey nature. Every year more parental tasks are heaped on us. We have to pick through head after head of hair, for example, each time a student comes up with lice, which can be fairly often. We have to give medicine. We have find extra time somewhere in the day to work with the students who don't have their homework, deal with students whose parents won't buy them the supplies they need, talk with the counselor about concerns for students with unwashed clothes, sudden changes in demeanor, brises, and on and on. So, when a rare time like recess comes along when the teacher can actually leave the four walls of her room for a few minutes without worrying about being sued, she really desperately needs, many days, to find a quiet spot, put her head down, and vegetate for those few precious minutes just to recharge her batteries for when the kids return. Instead, she will likely be happy to visit the restroom first. Then she may be visiting the counselor or principal. Or she might be making one of the phone calls to parents/guardians that she needs to make because of problems with students. Just one of those calls, though, can eat up all the time she has because far too many parents won't answer the phone when they see the school number on the caller ID, have given a false number in the first place, or have had their phone disconnected due to not paying the bill. Like most such tasks, most of these things will wind up being done for no pay on the teacher's personal time after school hours. Now, really, how many professionals do you know who have to go at it like that all day long, for no extra pay? Or would work in the broken-down, moldy buildings we do at such risk to our health? And I'm not going to even mention NCLB, which takes absolutely none of this into account either. I'll bet Mr. Bush has never spent an hour combing through hair seeking out nits when he was supposed to be working miracles in reading and math.
Truth is, just about any elementary teacher would LOVE to have the luxury of sitting and watching her kids play if it would relieve some of the rest of the load she bears. Sadly, though, this would only extend her workday further past school hours.
Sorry, folks. If you check my record, you'll see I don't say much. But it seems that someone, even the President, is always coming up with more and more things we should do. Some of it, such as giving injections to diabetic students, which was seriously considered recently, is even dangerous to our health.
Thanks to those of you who placed the blame and responsibility for the loss of the tag game on our "me"-centered society. I know that even with all the documented problems with education we see in the media everyday, many people still think teachers have it made with their little 8:00-3:10 job and all that time off in the summer. Truth is, it
is still a rewardi
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Gavin Allan
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AMEN, TNT! YOU SAID IT RIGHT ON THE MONEY.
Teaching is one of the hardest jobs there is, especially if the teacher is good, motivated, and interested in teaching students.
For too long, the rotten apples in the teaching profession have given the whole bunch a bad name. Of course, wherever you find a rotten teacher, you will also find a rotten administrator.
Education does not receive the priority it should in our country. Schools should be year-round, 8-5 sessions (with built-in time for vacations, PD, etc.). Today's teachers are not only expected to teach, but they are also expected to be the "absentee parent" for many kids who do not have caring, involved parents (However, the teacher does not have the authority or tools needed to serve in this role effectively.)
Folks who enter the teaching profession for an easy 9-month job should be shot. Of course, all teachers should have a 12-month contract, too.
Teaching is one of the hardest jobs there is, especially if the teacher is good, motivated, and interested in teaching students.
For too long, the rotten apples in the teaching profession have given the whole bunch a bad name. Of course, wherever you find a rotten teacher, you will also find a rotten administrator.
Education does not receive the priority it should in our country. Schools should be year-round, 8-5 sessions (with built-in time for vacations, PD, etc.). Today's teachers are not only expected to teach, but they are also expected to be the "absentee parent" for many kids who do not have caring, involved parents (However, the teacher does not have the authority or tools needed to serve in this role effectively.)
Folks who enter the teaching profession for an easy 9-month job should be shot. Of course, all teachers should have a 12-month contract, too.
L Roberts
Member
Thanks, Gavin! I am on a year-round contract, but not on a year-round schedule. I wish I were, because having to spend so much of each year reviewing last year's learning makes Mr. Bush's "adequate yearly progress" so much harder to achieve. Year-round school is just not that popular yet here in the South, although I expect that our parents who are unavailable for contact when their child has a fever or has had an accident in his pants would like your 8-5 idea! The police would, too, if we are supposed to also somehow be out policing the neighborhoods around us for sex offenders and kidnappers while managing to be in our classrooms with our eyes on the kids at the same time, as someone suggested. I heard on the news the other day that consideration is being given to having at least some school personnel carry weapons to defend us from the growing number of school shootings, so maybe neighborhood patrol during school hours really will be the next "new duty."
By the way, are you a teacher, too? I once taught high school English and just couldn't help noticing that your reply contained no errors at all that I could see, while I see at least three errors in my initial post that I missed in my quick read-through before I submitted it. I figure you must either be in education or really paid attention in your English classes!
By the way, are you a teacher, too? I once taught high school English and just couldn't help noticing that your reply contained no errors at all that I could see, while I see at least three errors in my initial post that I missed in my quick read-through before I submitted it. I figure you must either be in education or really paid attention in your English classes!
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EddieS'04
In Memoriam 1950-2022
TNTrac...You are correct in everything you said. My wife is an elementary teacher. Though she loves working with kids, even at our church, she has no spare time like some think. That includes after hours at home...Teachers work more than 8 hr days..
