Seattle school renames Easter eggs 'Spring Spheres'

[Nick Miller]

Yep that's right, the word God is in there so so don't chnge it either.

"under god" was added in 1954. It is time to remove it. This is a modern world. We are the creators.

 

[H D]

We are the creators.

We are the destructors.

 

[Mark K 2]

Also, this is the greatest country in the world

This makes me chuckle. It's usually uttered by Americans who have never been out of the country. I've been around the world and have to admit that the USA fails in many areas.

 

[Tom Schindler]

I simply said that I gave a sympathetic (hey, you married the guy) look to his wife. That's all I said. Never showed any malice, never showed any negative look.

Really? Saying "You married the *******" look isn't negative or nasty? I would have to disagree with that statement. Giving a look of calling him a "*******" is nasty, in my book. I am sure the average person would agree with me.



Does it matter if we are at a ballgame, school, or anywhere else. Standards should be standards. If someone has some reason to not pledge allegienct to the flag, then it is their right to do so.



When my Mom became an American in 1973, the judge asked her if she is proud to be an American. My mom's reply, "I am not any more proud to be an American as I was when I was a German". The judge said to her, "I respect a comment like that".



And no, my mom did not recite the pledge in front of the federal judge.





Tom

 

[Thomas Rogers]

Caymen,



I guess I need to follow my own advice and "say what I mean, mean what I say." I guess you took me literally, as if there is really some way to actually give someone a look that conveys "hey, you married the *******." I don't even know HOW I would give such a look, but trust me, I probably did try, and the best that I gave was a look of sympathy.



I was trying to be a little light-hearted and funny in my posting. I'll be more careful in the future.



As I said, I respect his right to not say the pledge. That's why I didn't give him a stern look, that's why I didn't get all up in his grill, and that's why I didn't make a big deal with it to the school.



I also will use my right to think the guy is a poser, vinegar and water bag. I suspect (and I assume) he is just another ******* rallying against authority. Good for him, I guess, if that's his lot in life. For me, I've found long ago that going through life with a chip on ones shoulder, and constantly tilting at windmills is a rather piss-poor existence. But, it's a free country. If he wants to be the south end of a north bound horse, than so be it.



TJR

 

[TomT]

I never hold my hand over my heart when saying the pledge at baseball games. What would I do with my hot dog and beer?

:haveabeer:



Really, I believe in standing for the anthem but I see many people not holding their hand over their heart. I'm a proud American but I just don't see that as a big deal. What does chap me is people that will not even get off their cell phones for 2 minutes during the pledge.

 

[Bill V]

Questions for those of you who don't think they should have changed the name:



1) Say you're in charge of this school. Say that the school has a tradition of holding an Easter Egg hunt as something fun for the kids to do in the spring. And say you're contacted by your district's legal representation, and told that that if the district is to avoid a costly lawsuit (regardless of whether they win or lose, the cost would be substantial), you need to remove the religious "Easter" reference from the name of the event (and the name of the objects involved) if you want to continue to do it. Do you change the name to save the event? Or do you cancel the event completely?



2) Would you feel as negatively about this if they had simply called it an "egg hunt"?



3) If you had to change the name--beside "Easter egg hunt" or "egg hunt", what name would you use?



Reading between the lines--I can't help but think that the "spring spheres" term was originally said in jest by someone who thinks this is ridiculous, and someone else took them seriously and ran with it. Otherwise, I can't think of what part of "egg hunt"--sans "Easter"--would be considered offensive, or at risk of a lawsuit.

 

[TomT]

Has anyone told this to the Easter Bunny?

 

[Tom Schindler]

I guess I need to follow my own advice and "say what I mean, mean what I say." I guess you took me literally, as if there is really some way to actually give someone a look that conveys "hey, you married the *******." I don't even know HOW I would give such a look, but trust me, I probably did try, and the best that I gave was a look of sympathy.

I knew what you meant, but since you would not have wasted a second calling me out on it, I had to return the favor.



I understand where you are coming from, but I also know that there are some people that refuse to salute the flag, do not recite the pledge, or any other "patriotic" things because of religous convictions.



I am against those that talk during these "events" because that is rude and disrespectful to those in attendance and towards this country. Standing during this events shows respect.



When I was at the USS Arizona Memorial, I can not tell you how many people were standing at the memorial talking on their cell phones and acting they are in line waiting to ride a roller coaster at Cedar Point. You are at a grave site, for crying out loud!



Show the respect that should be given, but you should not be required to salute a flag if your religous convictions restrict it.





Tom

 

[Kevin Lang]

"I am not any more proud to be an American as I was when I was a German"

Then why come to America? Immigrants come to America for a chance at a brighter future, something they obviously can not get in their native countries. If you're just as proud as the potential for a brighter future as you were to live what was a lesser life before, then you should go back there and let someone who is proud of the opportunity American citizenship affords get naturalized.



If some Irish immigrant had said this in the 19th century, they'd have shoved him back on the boat and told him when he had starved some more in his famine-stricken land that maybe he'd be a little more grateful for what he could get here.

Show the respect that should be given, but you should not be required to salute a flag if your religous convictions restrict it.

The irony of that post is immense. To salute the flag IS to show the respect that should be given. Also, by what you've said, if someone were to have a religious belief that compelled them to speak incessantly in public, you'd be okay with them carrying on at the USS Arizona...which doesn't jibe with the other statement you made.

Do you change the name to save the event? Or do you cancel the event completely?

I choose Option 3--realize that I have a pair and run the event as it has always been run. If the higher-ups take dread taking flak for it, then they aren't fit to hold their positions. If I get fired for it, at least I went down fighting. As the saying goes, it's better to regret what you did than what you didn't do.

 

[Tom Schindler]

Then why come to America?

My mom married my father in 1970 and she became a citizen in 1973.



She did not come here for a brighter future. She did not come here because there were more opportunities.



She came here because her husband lived here.





Tom

 

[Kevin Lang]

She did not come here for a brighter future. She did not come here because there were more opportunities.



She came here because her husband lived here.

There was a greater opportunity--he husband lived here. If you want to be a German first and foremost, then just stay a resident legal (key word) alien in America. Do everyone a favor. :banghead:



West Germany in 1973 was a far dimmer place than America in the same time BTW.

 

[Tom Schindler]

West Germany in 1973 was a far dimmer place than America in the same time BTW.

I would have to disagree, but I digress. If the federal judge had no issues with my mom's statement, you shouldn't either.





Tom

 

[Thomas Rogers]

Caymen said:

If the federal judge had no issues with my mom's statement, you shouldn't either.

There goes Caymen, telling people how they should and shouldn't feel and think about things again.



:banana:



I do get your point. People can have any number of reasons to not be patriotic, etc. There are chest beaters that will always personally chastise those that don't "tow the line".



TJR

 

[Bill V]

There was a greater opportunity--he husband lived here. If you want to be a German first and foremost, then just stay a resident legal (key word) alien in America. Do everyone a favor. :banghead:

I didn't see anything here indicating she "wanted to be a German first and foremost". It sounded to me like she was equally proud of her German background and her American future (or her American/German future--you didn't mention whether she now has dual citizenship, or is strictly American, and I'm not familiar with how that works in such situations). Her husband's residence was, effectively, the tiebreaker. No problem with that--and her blunt honesty before the judge is refreshing.

 

[Tom Schindler]

you didn't mention whether she now has dual citizenship, or is strictly American,

She does not have dual citizenship. She gave up her German citizanship, including her pension she had with the German government. (she worked for the government at that time)





Tom

 

[Bill V]

She gave up her German citizanship, including her pension she had with the German government. (she worked for the government at that time)

That's actually cool--That she saw so much both in this country and in her husband that she was willing to give that up. Good for her--and also, good for us as a country!

If the federal judge had no issues with my mom's statement, you shouldn't either.

Like TJR, I do get your point on the subject being discussed.



But more broadly--Just because a federal judge says something, we should accept it as gospel? I hardly think so...

 

[Robert Thomas]

God Bless America ...... and the Easter Bunny.



The Easter Bunny - I will worship anything that brings me chocolate. If the Spheres bring me chocolate I will worship them also.



God - I went to Church 40 years ago and they married me. I haven't been back. I don't know if there is a God, but, as I get older I think it's a good idea to cover all the bases just in case. Having said that:



God Bless Hugh, fkent, Jerry, TJR, Richard, Bill, Johnny, Les, Cayman, Brandon, KL, Nick, Mark, and Tom for keeping me entertained. What a Country that gives you the freedom to be yourself and have no fear of being institutionalized for exercising those freedoms.



:haveabeer:

 

[Robert Thomas]

Double post



Old age

 

[Don Pertz]

She's done it again.. She sure isn't backing down on

her hard line stance and one has to appreciate her belief in the rights of her native countrymen..

A breath of fresh air to see someone lead.

I wish some leaders would step up in Canada & USA .





Australian Prime Minister does it again!!



This woman should be appointed Queen of the World!! Truer words have never been spoken.



It took a lot of courage for this woman to speak, what she had to say for the world to hear. The retribution could be phenomenal, but at least she was willing to take a stand on her and Australia's beliefs.

The whole world needs a leader like this!



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Prime Minister Julia Gillard - Australia



Muslims who want to live under Islamic Sharia law, were told on Wednesday to get out of Australia, as the government targeted radicals in a bid to head off potential terror attacks..





Separately, Gillard angered some Australian Muslims on Wednesday by saying she supported spy agencies monitoring the nation's mosques.



Quote:

'IMMIGRANTS, NOT AUSTRALIANS, MUST ADAPT.. Take It Or Leave It.

I am tired of this nation worrying about whether we are offending some individual or their culture. Since the terrorist attacks on Bali, we have experienced a surge in patriotism by the majority of Australians. '



'This culture has been developed over two centuries of struggles, trials and victories by millions of men and women who have sought freedom'



'We speak mainly ENGLISH, not Spanish, Lebanese, Arabic, Chinese, Japanese, Russian, or any other language.

Therefore, if you wish to become part of our society, Learn the language!'



'Most Australians believe in God. This is not some Christian right wing political push, but a fact, because Christian men and women, on Christian principles, founded this nation, and this is clearly documented. It is certainly appropriate to display it on the walls of our schools.



'If God offends you, then I suggest you consider another part of the world as your new home, because God is part of our culture.'



'We will accept your beliefs, and will not question why. All we ask is that you accept ours, and live in harmony and peaceful enjoyment with us.'



'But this is OUR COUNTRY, OUR LAND, and OUR LIFESTYLE, and we will allow you every opportunity to enjoy all this. But once you are done complaining, whining, and griping about Our Flag, Our Pledge, Our Christian beliefs, or Our Way of Life, I highly encourage you take advantage of one other great Australian freedom,

'THE RIGHT TO LEAVE'.



'If you aren't happy here then LEAVE. We didn't force you to come here. You asked to be here. So accept the country YOU accepted.'



:banana::haveabeer::supercool: