Strange cars coming in '11...
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Andy Chase
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I think I just threw up in my mouth a little bit:throwup:
Jerry Gerner 2
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Ok, is it just me or did the Range rover steal alot of design qualities from the new Explorer? I kinda think that Scion iQ would be a blast to race around in just for fun, the Hyundai looks kinda cool.
Ya, I agree with Jerry, I think that little Scion iQ would be a blast to zip around town in. I even like the yellow color. 90 HP in that little rollerskate should be plenty of power to make driving it a real kick.
...Rich
...Rich
gary s
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nice to see a refreshing change.
agree, hyundai has some nice lookin' vehicles
agree, hyundai has some nice lookin' vehicles
Steve McKellop
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Scion iQ: The 10 air bags just mean they have to scrape you off of balloons when you're squashed....:boohoo::sad:.....oh, and if they are ever deployed the car will not be repaired since the replacement bags will cost more than the car is worth.:yawn:
Steve,
I would reserve my judgement until the vehicle is release and NHTSA does complete crash test data on the Scion iQ. I suspect that the airbags will improve surviability in a crash from any angle. Over the years all auto manufacturers are adding more and more airbags to cars to increase their safety. And it does not take 10 airbags to go off to make a vehicle a total loss. I have seen Sport Tracs that appeared not to have that much damage be totalled by the insurance companies.
...Rich
I would reserve my judgement until the vehicle is release and NHTSA does complete crash test data on the Scion iQ. I suspect that the airbags will improve surviability in a crash from any angle. Over the years all auto manufacturers are adding more and more airbags to cars to increase their safety. And it does not take 10 airbags to go off to make a vehicle a total loss. I have seen Sport Tracs that appeared not to have that much damage be totalled by the insurance companies.
...Rich
When everyone around you is in big trucks and SUVs, you're really putting yourself at a major disadvantage in a wreck if you are in something that small. I don't care how many airbags, how well it does in crash tests, etc. Sure, the crash tests can show that you're going to be fine in a collision with a wall, but test that little thing against an F250 from the side and see how well the dummy is. If you can live without your head attached, that may be the car for you.
I agree it looks like something fun to drive, kind of like a Miata or a Cooper S, but you would only find me in a vehicle like that in the mountains or on a track. I wouldn't risk my life by driving that around daily.
Just because something does well for Europeans and Japanese, does not mean it is well suited to America. We do have a different lifestyle, roads are different, surrounding vehicles are different, etc. Not to mention, over half the population is just way too fat to fit into something like that.
I agree it looks like something fun to drive, kind of like a Miata or a Cooper S, but you would only find me in a vehicle like that in the mountains or on a track. I wouldn't risk my life by driving that around daily.
Just because something does well for Europeans and Japanese, does not mean it is well suited to America. We do have a different lifestyle, roads are different, surrounding vehicles are different, etc. Not to mention, over half the population is just way too fat to fit into something like that.
Gavin Allan
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The Ferrari FF might be OK- it kind of reminds me of the old Datsun 240Zs. :banana:
The others make me throw up in my mouth- especially the Scion. :throwup:
The others make me throw up in my mouth- especially the Scion. :throwup:
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Bud Williams
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I remember the first Hyundais 1986?, right after the Yugos, $4995. Total POS disposable car.
25 plus years later, they are making some pretty popular cars along with KIA's.
Got two friends that just bought KIA Sorentos...they love them, Just wait till KIA fills the Sport Trac void and makes their own version to enter the truck market in the US....Kia Sport Trac anyone?
Hugh,
I agree that small cars like the iQ can't match up to an impact by a much larger vehicle, but then any vehicle that gets hit by a larger vehicle does not fair too well. If you are driving a Sport Trac and get hit head-on or a in a side impact by a fully loaded 18 wheeler at 60 mph, you are probably not going to come out much better....dead is still dead.
Those little cars like the iQ are primarily designed to be city/urban cars where speed are much slower and under those conditions the 10 airbags can make a significant difference in reducing injuries or loss of life. Of course people will still drive them on the interstates, etc and the risk will be higher.
Just look back to 20 years ago and how much the vehicles have been down-sized (and how the prices keep climing..lol). eventually there will be more and more of those smaller cars on the roads and size won't matter...except if you run into that 18 wheeler.
...Rich
I agree that small cars like the iQ can't match up to an impact by a much larger vehicle, but then any vehicle that gets hit by a larger vehicle does not fair too well. If you are driving a Sport Trac and get hit head-on or a in a side impact by a fully loaded 18 wheeler at 60 mph, you are probably not going to come out much better....dead is still dead.
Those little cars like the iQ are primarily designed to be city/urban cars where speed are much slower and under those conditions the 10 airbags can make a significant difference in reducing injuries or loss of life. Of course people will still drive them on the interstates, etc and the risk will be higher.
Just look back to 20 years ago and how much the vehicles have been down-sized (and how the prices keep climing..lol). eventually there will be more and more of those smaller cars on the roads and size won't matter...except if you run into that 18 wheeler.
...Rich
Hugh,
I have driven in Atlanta on numerous occassions, and it does not come close to the speed of Dallas or Austin drivers....especially on the Interstates and freeways that cross through and circle the cities.
As an urban car I am talking about driving on streets where the speeds are at or below 40 mph and there are traffic lights on nearly every corner.
Yes, I would like a Lotus too (if they improved their quality), but then we are not talking about cars in close to the same price class, just similar in the "Fun to Drive" class and there are a lot of cars that fit that class.
...Rich
I have driven in Atlanta on numerous occassions, and it does not come close to the speed of Dallas or Austin drivers....especially on the Interstates and freeways that cross through and circle the cities.
As an urban car I am talking about driving on streets where the speeds are at or below 40 mph and there are traffic lights on nearly every corner.
Yes, I would like a Lotus too (if they improved their quality), but then we are not talking about cars in close to the same price class, just similar in the "Fun to Drive" class and there are a lot of cars that fit that class.
...Rich
gary s
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"so 'til then, I'll be in the bigger vehicles"
i guess you have that "i am a real man" syndrome :bwahaha:
i guess you have that "i am a real man" syndrome :bwahaha:
I've haven't been to Texas...yet. Atlanta's road system is pretty stupid and set up to where you would find it difficult to only stay "on streets where the speeds are at or below 40 mph and there are traffic lights on nearly every corner." You pretty much have to jump on the perimeter to get anywhere.
I've driven my sisters' Focus and Aveo around Atlanta a few times and I just don't feel safe in those cars. Merging onto a highway is the scariest thing when your vehicle can't accelerate to 80 quick enough. Maybe Scion drivers are more brave and manly than me, which brings me to the next point.
I mentioned my desire to drive a Miata or Cooper S. I regularly rode a Honda Elite 80 around campus throughout college, sometimes just for the fun of it. No syndromes here.
My fiance drives a Z71 Tahoe, lifted 2" with 33" tires. Any insight into her syndromes? Is she lying to me when she says she feels safe in it?
I won't make any judgments about your personality Gary. I was merely discussing vehicles.
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Hugh,
90HP in a little Scion iQ would give you far better acceleration and stopping than a lifted Tahoe and far better manuverability in a smaller foot print...qualities that are great for city driving. A lifted Tahoe is not safer than smaller vehicles, just more intimidating.
The fact that YOU don't feel safe in small cars does not mean they are not safe and you have no evidence to prove that the Scion iQ is unsafe. Every year small cars are getting better results in their crash testing...and if it takes 10 airbags to acheive that degree of safety, then it takes 10 airbags.
...Rich
90HP in a little Scion iQ would give you far better acceleration and stopping than a lifted Tahoe and far better manuverability in a smaller foot print...qualities that are great for city driving. A lifted Tahoe is not safer than smaller vehicles, just more intimidating.
The fact that YOU don't feel safe in small cars does not mean they are not safe and you have no evidence to prove that the Scion iQ is unsafe. Every year small cars are getting better results in their crash testing...and if it takes 10 airbags to acheive that degree of safety, then it takes 10 airbags.
...Rich
gary s
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"Merging onto a highway is the scariest thing when your vehicle can't accelerate to 80 quick enough. Maybe Scion drivers are more brave and manly than me, which brings me to the next point."
not braver. i never experienced a problem merging with a scion or even a focus onto the hwy.
living in the ny metro area and driving in many other states, i never feel in danger. it has alot to do with driving skills.
you mention, the bigger the vehicle, the safer it is. not always the case in accidents.
rich brings up good points.
not braver. i never experienced a problem merging with a scion or even a focus onto the hwy.
living in the ny metro area and driving in many other states, i never feel in danger. it has alot to do with driving skills.
you mention, the bigger the vehicle, the safer it is. not always the case in accidents.
rich brings up good points.
