Where our oil comes from

[TomT]

I think it may be time to invade, I mean "liberate" Canada.

 

[TrainTrac]

Hmmm... Six of our foreign sources are OPEC members. And we get more oil from five others on the list than Iraq. If our military action in Iraq over the last five years was all about oil, why aren't they our number one importer?:huh: Guess this blows that claim out of the water.



TomT,



Just for comparison, were there stats showing how much oil China and India are importing?

 

[Tom Schindler]

Iraq was the only country that was the easiest to convince America is bad.



Guess that blows your theory out the window.





Tom

 

[TrainTrac]

Can you explain your statement, Tom? I'm not sure I understand your point.:blink:

 

[Tom Schindler]

Irac was the only country that was the easiest to convince America (Its citizans and leaders) that Iraq is bad.





Tom

 

[TrainTrac]

I still don't get your point. Correct me if I'm wrong, but if you're attempting to infer that our actions over the last five years in Iraq were for oil, and this was done because it was, as you put it, "the only country that was the easiest to convince America (Its citizans and leaders) that Iraq is bad", then why isn't Iraq at the top of the list? If we invaded Iraq for its oil, then shouldn't we be importing most of our oil from that country?



Your statement that:

Irac was the only country that was the easiest to convince America (Its citizans and leaders) that Iraq is bad.

as it stands isn't supported by any facts, it's merely a supposition. So it doesn't discount the comment I made with regard to the above statistics at all.

 

[Woppy V]

argh..

 

[Martin]

"Well, it's 1........2.......3........What are we fighting for...........Well, I don't give a damn........next stop We'll bomb Iran"



:lol::lol:

 

[2]

I think it may be time to invade, I mean "liberate" Canada.

Remember what happened the last time you guys went to war with us. . .



We ended up burning down the whitehouse.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_of_1812

 

[Martin]

Remember what happened the last time you guys went to war with us. .

I remember fighting in that war in my previous life.



I may live in the States, but I will always call Canada my home.

 

[Kane Oster]

Yea and by the end of "that" war we had captured either montreal or quebec and decided not to march on the other one.... Or else Canada would be already "liberated" lol

 

[2]

Yea and by the end of "that" war we had captured either montreal or quebec and decided not to march on the other one.... Or else Canada would be already "liberated" lol

I am not aware of this piece of history you mention, what year did that happen in? all the segments in the wiki article that talk about the american invasions all end in retreat by the americans.

For the rest of the year, Ogdensburg had no American garrison and many residents of Ogdensburg resumed visits and trade with Prescott. This British victory removed the last American regular troops from the Upper St Lawrence frontier and helped secure British communications with Montreal. Late in 1813, after much argument, the Americans made two thrusts against Montreal. The plan eventually agreed upon was for Major-General Wade Hampton to march north from Lake Champlain and join a force under General James Wilkinson which would embark in boats and sail from Sackett's Harbor on Lake Ontario and descend the Saint Lawrence. Hampton was delayed by bad roads and supply problems and an intense dislike of Wilkinson, which limited his desire to support his plan. On October 25, his 4,000-strong force was defeated at the Chateauguay River by Charles de Salaberry's smaller force of French-Canadian Voltigeurs and Mohawks. Wilkinson's force of 8,000 set out on October 17 but was also delayed by bad weather. After learning that Hampton had been checked, Wilkinson heard that a British force under Captain William Mulcaster and Lieutenant-Colonel Joseph Wanton Morrison was pursuing him, and by November 10, he was forced to land near Morrisburg, about 150 kilometers (90 mi) from Montreal. On November 11, Wilkinson's rearguard, numbering 2,500, attacked Morrison's force of 800 at Crysler's Farm and was repulsed with heavy losses. After learning that Hampton was unable to renew his advance, Wilkinson retreated to the U.S. and settled into winter quarters. He resigned his command after a failed attack on a British outpost at Lacolle Mills.

 

[Ray McIntireJr]

Easy fellas, easy!

 

[2]

Sorry, I got a little off topic, back on topic, TrainTrac, are these the numbers you are looking for?



Top World Oil Net Importers, 2006

(thousand barrels per day)

Rank Country Imports



1 United States 12,357

2 Japan 5,031

3 China 3,356

4 Germany 2,514

5 Korea, South 2,156

 

[Nelson Atwell]

Where our oil comes from:

 

[Shaun Tucker]

I think we should start keeping some of that oil for ourselves..



I guess the Harper gov't would rather squander it and give it right to the Bush administration because "big brother said so."



Don't get me wrong, if we did not deal with states in the capacity we do, we'd most likely still be stuck in the stone ages. But this kind of practice dates back decades. Case in point, the Avro Arrow. Canada stood to make millions and become the forerunner in aviation technology with this design, but was forced to abandon it in order to appease the US and implement NORAD.



We should be concentrating on keeping a good chunk of our oil exports within canada and become somewhat self-sufficient with regards to the whole refining process.



I admit that Im not entirely knowledgeable on this subject, its just a humble opinion from a guy whos about as patriotic as any of you. But seeing these figures and then looking at the gas prices on the sign across the street starts to raise the blood pressure a little.:lol:

 

[TomT]

Actually that's a good idea shaun. Texas should give it's people all the oil they need for free and if there's any left we will sell it to the other states at about $500 a barrel. I'll bet that would get the Californians drilling.

 

[Shaun Tucker]

Texas should give it's people all the oil they need for free

:lol: keep dreamin' Tom.



I don't mean to be selfish, I just would like to see these large oil deposits in Alberta and the Arctic pay off in some way. As of right now, there are no pay offs...at least none that I, the ordinary Canadian Citizen, can see (other than the difference in gas prices between here and Europe).

 

[David Griffith 2]

LOL@ Nelson

 

[2]

I don't mean to be selfish, I just would like to see these large oil deposits in Alberta and the Arctic pay off in some way. As of right now, there are no pay offs...at least none that I, the ordinary Canadian Citizen, can see (other than the difference in gas prices between here and Europe)

What are you talking about? The pay-offs are huge, do you know how much tax money the federal government makes off of oil and how much the provincial government makes? Look at all the jobs created. The numbers that the Feds make off of all this are astronomical.