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Did anyone see it? I wasn't able to as it showed at only 3 theatres in my whole state.



It was panned by the Right-Wing media and the Left-Wing media, albeit for different reasons. Both sides of the political spectrum in something approaching agreement on an issue? Amazing! :banghead:

(It pains me that large aspects of the Conservative movement railed against the movie, but oh well.)



Anyhow, I had my doubts on the film, and wanted to know if anyone else had managed to catch it so I might get a more objective review. If it gets a DVD release I'll pick it up there.
 
It was panned by the Right-Wing media and the Left-Wing media, albeit for different reasons. Both sides of the political spectrum in something approaching agreement on an issue? Amazing!



Look at the bright side: That's merely free publicity, and hopefully generating more public interest in the movie and then more theaters showing it.



I haven't seen it yet. The closest theater to me showing it is about 1.5 hours away. I'm hoping one of my local theaters picks it up. If not, I'll travel to see it.
 
I think this is the 1st of 3 parts?



Correct. The book (over 1,000 pages long) is broken up into three parts, and the producers plan to begin production on Part 2 soon with a target release date of Tax Day next year, and then film/release Part 3 on Tax Day 2013.



Who is John Galt?
 
Yeah, I've had the book for a while and statred reading it. Might get done by the time the 3rd movie is released...LOL! And I thought "The Frontiersman" was a long read!
 
The hardest part is the chapter titled "This is John Galt Speaking" in the 3rd section of the book.



It's a transcription of the 3-hour radio speech Galt gives, and it is effectively a reiteration of everything previously said in the book. It's the built in Cliffsnotes, only tediously long and very, very wordy. It took me multiple tries to power through that, but it was worth it in the end. The longest 80 pages I've ever read in my life, in a book that I read because I wanted to.



The book is more about its message than character development, which is something that the movie reviewers seem to ignore. Though many reviewers don't seem to have read the book at all :banghead:
 
And that surprises you?



Not really, but several reviewers have tried to say that even if a viewer has read the book, that viewer will still not like the movie. That irks me, especially Ebert, who threw in his opinion of Ayn Rand's philosophy without knowing any more about Objectivism than what he's been told (as he didn't read the effing book.)



I suspect only someone very familiar with Rands 1957 novel could understand the film at all, and I doubt they will be happy with it.



So OK. Lets say you know the novel, you agree with Ayn Rand, youre an objectivist or a libertarian, and youve been waiting eagerly for this movie. Man, are you going to get a letdown.



I figured it might provide a parable of Ayn Rands philosophy that I could discuss. For me, that philosophy reduces itself to: "Im on board; pull up the lifeline."



For further corroboration that he didn't even read the book:



...[T]he states policies caused the suppression of an engine that runs on the ozone in the air, or something (the films detailed explanation wont clear this up).



Not to mention that he didn't even bother to review the movie objectively, he all but admits that he went into the movie irreversibly biased against it.
 
Saw the previews. They got too many basic railroad reality things wrong for me to enjoy it if I were to see it. Acela trains aren't diesel and they aren't transcontinental. (facepalm)
 
Acela trains aren't diesel and they aren't transcontinental.



Yes, because AMTRAK is a colossal failure, an example of government bloat, and a demonstration of how government intransigence and stupidity will allow an unprofitable enterprise to be allowed to subsist on our tax dollars. An example of what GM and Chrysler will fall to, though they weren't much higher when they went under.



Anyone who tries to improve AMTRAK gets run out of town on a rail, almost literally, as was the case for former AMTRAK head Alex Kummant.



Sadly, the Acela Express only averages 82 mph (Other trains clock with ~46 mph average speed), and due to initial government inanity before AMTRAK was formed, and idiocy after it was formed, AMTRAK still can not go above 79 mph maximum speed on any track, save the Northeast Corridor. That could make AMTRAK actually convenient. AMTRAK also refuses to assert its federal right to take priority over freight trains, and lets the freight trains mock it. Look at the On-Time-Performance assessments on Amtrak's site of any long train route, especially infamous ones like the Empire Builder or the Coast Starlight, and you'll see that the vast majority of delays are caused by the freight trains illegally putting themselves before AMTRAK.



Even without AMTRAK letting itself be trampled upon by the freight companies (though such is rather fitting as the government trampled on the railroads prior to creating AMTRAK, which killed our rail network, tis irony), the venture would still fail due to AMTRAK's own mis-management and deprivation of Congressional funds.



Honestly, AMTRAK needs to scale back and rebuild. AFAIK, they STILL have not rebuilt & started reusing bridges that were taken out on the Gulf Coast by Katrina. When I went cross-country the first time via Amtrak in 2008, they had not. 3 years, and nothing? Dagny Taggart would have a conniption.



On topic, many reviewers deride the film for featuring trains, claiming that "no one would invest money in a train in 2016". Spouting ignorance seems to be a requirement to be involved with Hollywood, as a reliable high-speed train is the most efficient form of transit we have, across the board. The balance of Speed, amount of cargo moved, reliability, and cost would be at levels far above any other form of transit. The book Atlas Shrugged even hits upon this, further evidence that these people did not read the book :(



I wanted AMTRAK to be good, I still want them to be good, but their prospects don't look good. Which is vexing, as there are a slew of trips that I wish to take that they would make convenient for me, as their stations are right where I want to go (if they weren't so infernally SLOW). Additionally, I have a beaucoup of AMTRAK reward points, and I'd like to actually use them on AMTRAK.



(On an aside, it distresses me that it costs 1/5th the amount of points to go from DC to Montreal, QB or Boston, MA as it does to go from DC to Raleigh, NC, or Columbus, OH.)
 
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Saw the previews. They got too many basic railroad reality things wrong for me to enjoy it if I were to see it. Acela trains aren't diesel and they aren't transcontinental. (facepalm)



To me that's like saying you aren't going to go see "Tron Legacy" because it got the internals of the computers wrong, or taking a pass on "Space Jam" because the basketball game shown was unrealistic.



These are fictional movies. Go, enjoy them for their story. Don't nitpick the technical details.



P.S. Only in cartoons does a person fall faster than an anvil. But, in cartoons it is still funny and entertaining when the laws of physics are broken for the sake of a good laugh.



TJR
 
P.S. Only in cartoons does a person fall faster than an anvil. But, in cartoons it is still funny and entertaining when the laws of physics are broken for the sake of a good laugh.



IIRC, the laws of physics determine that an anvil will fall at the same rate as a person.
 
Hugh,



Right, objects fall at the same rate of speed not withstanding wind resistance and other forces. However, such is not the case in cartoons. If an anvil and a person fall of a building or a cliff in a cartoon, invariably the person falls faster, the anvil slower, and the anvil lands atop the person just after they hit the ground. Happens all the time.



LOL.
 
And now, :back2topic:



Whooo-Hooo! The movie is finally playing at a theater in my town! Gonna see it very soon!:banana:
 
I'll have to wait for it to come out on DVD, or drive to Atlanta. I really want to see this movie, though.
 
Saw the movie Friday night. I thought it was pretty good, especially the message, given the current state of things here in the US.



Looking forward to Part 2 on Tax Day 2012 and Part 3 on Tax Day 2013.



I highly recommend that everyone see this movie, and read or listen to the book!:supercool:
 
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