Installed Michelin Defender LTX MS Tires

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swshawaii

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More than ten years and dry rot beginning to show it was time for new shoes. My previous Michelin Latitude Tour model was discontinued so I needed to do some research for replacements. When I bought the Latitude Tours in 2010, I was also considering the LTX M/S2 that was very highly regarded with some claims of lasting over 100,000 miles. Comparing both tread patterns I believed the Latitudes would be a better choice for my type of driving and would be a smoother and quieter ride. Latitude Tour is P rated (passenger car) and the Defender LTX MS is a LT (light truck) model with stiffer sidewalls. Long story short, the Defender LTX MS are just as quiet with comparable fuel economy after driving about 1000 miles. As expected, the Defender rides slightly firmer due to the stiffer sidewalls using the same 35 PSI in all tires. These are stock sized 235/70-16 for my 3:73 XLS. (4:10 uses 255/70-16) What convinced me to pull the trigger was my Sam's Club Plus price of $655 installed including tax. I'll have alignment checked by a shop I've used before that specializes in modified suspensions. (Lowered 2.5" front and 3" rear) 235/70-16 size is only available with raised white letters and thought I'd leave them facing out and be extra careful around curbs. Haven't had raised white letters on a vehicle since my 1979 Ranchero (third pic) with BFG Radial T/A's.
 

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Nice.
Don't ya hate that?... need new tries because of dry rot, not because they are worn. I have had to do that twice now.
 

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Dry rot seems to be the most common complaint with Michelin tires. They claim to have developed a new compound that will counter dry rot. We'll see. Truck is garage kept and I avoid using cleaners or dressings unless absolutely needed. Old Latitudes only rolled around 30,000 miles in ten years and were rotated every 5000 miles. My guess is they had around 10,000 to 15,000 miles of tread remaining. I always check build dates before buying. Three of the new Defender's were dated 0921 and one was 1121. that means they were made the 9th and 11th week of this year. No wonder they felt warm to the touch. JK ; )
 

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The last set of tires I put on my 2002 4WD ST were Goodyear Wrangler Silent Armor tires because I did a fair amount of back road travel and a bit of four-wheeling on rocky terrain. I loved those tires and had a lot of confidence in them. And despite the somewhat aggressive tread, they were not noisy.

When I bought the used 2010 LTD 4WD the dealer had put on a new set of General Altimax RT43 tires. I soon learned to hate them on my cross-country road trips because of the incredibly loud whine on certain types of concrete Interstate highway. After a couple of hours of listening to that noise it drove me nuts.

Even though they were not worn out, in anticipation of another cross-country road trip in 2016 I decided to look for new tires. Unfortunately, Goodyear did not make the Silent Armor tire in a size to fit the 18" wheels on my 2010. Thus began a search for a beefier tire than the passenger car type tire currently on my ST.

I finally narrowed the online search down to a few brands/models and then went to my favorite tire stores to look at my choices. I decided on the Michelin Defender LTX M/S. That was five years and 32,000 miles ago and I still like these tires. They are terrific on wet highways and twisting mountain roads. I'm not as confident taking them out four-wheeling as I was with the Silent Armor tires so I limit the gnarly back road driving to the Jeep instead.
 

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Hi Steve, I have the Cooper Discoverer H/T Plus. In 265/60-18. They are T-speed rating. Have a true 9" tread width. Tread wear 400, traction A temp B, rated as xtra load. Only a few tenths shorter, than the OEM 255/70-16. I have the 4:10 gears Not high on the tread wear. They get excellent traction and very quiet at all speeds . With my heavy foot. I have to move the front to the rear every 15k to 20K miles. Then buy 2 new for the front. I have bad habit of launching for fast go. With the addition of the Richmond Gear mechanical locker, added to my open gear housing. I get even wear on both rear tires. Sometimes it locks both wheels too soon making a right turn from stop. I can get a good straight launch though.
Discount tire used to stock them. Now they have a in house cooper H/T P.
Bought 2, then had them to order what I wanted and take them off, 2 days latter. Theirs did not ride the same or handle the same. The cooper I like is about 2/3rds the cost of your Michelin's. I like the looks and performance of the Cooper Discoverer H/T Plus. So I for go the lower mileage. To be happy.
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Thanks Eddie. Buying tires in Hawaii can be challenging. Sam's Club Plus membership only cost me an extra $10 per year otherwise I would have had to pay shipping. Considered the Cooper H/T Plus that YOU recommended a while back, but couldn't find a local dealer that stocked my 235/70-16 size. They can get them, but shipping would be extra. Many tire dealers match warehouse club prices, but most only do it if you pay for mounting and balancing plus all their extras. Lex Brodie's has been the #! tire shop in Hawaii for decades and matched Sam's Club price, but only if I paid for the extras and alignment. Bottom line, their price was almost $300 higher. I don't rely on reviews, but I've never seen higher ratings for tires than the older LTX M/S2 or the replacement Defenders. Time will tell.

BTW, hows your new W10 computah? LOL
 

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Many tire dealers match warehouse club prices, but most only do it if you pay for mounting and balancing plus all their extras.
Pep-Boys was bad about that. Some of their own sale prices included you pay for all the bells and whistles. Just to get there sale price...Sad to say that is how I got my first cooper hts plus tires.
That was the time the tire guy was going to put the lift pads under my rocker panel. instead of the frame. I'm glad I was in the garage.
I have a hard time with trust. I always sneak into the garages and shops. They scratched the face of the rim lip, on all 4 wheels. I got a $750 settlement. Polished it out myself. The wheels are Enkei RT-6, and obsolete. Center caps were all rusty. I ordered new ones from Gorilla wheel accessories.

To much happening. haven't' got the new computer set up yet. I have go to the vet tomorrow. My cat developed lumps on 2 nipples and they are bleeding. I feel like I'm on a 8 second rodeo bull ride, and the 8 seconds has not timed out....LOL....:(
 

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I’m running the LTX MS2’s on my 05 Adrenalin with open 4.10 gears and replaced at 80k miles. Had enough tread left that I sold the take-offs for $120
 

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I just put a set of Michelin Premier LTXs on my '08 STA. I've mostly had Michelin's on my vehicles since my father-in-law gave me a set of Michelin snow tires (never had to chain them). They always gave me 60K+ milage. These new ones are quiet and the ride is as nice as the Adrenalin's suspension will allow. No vibration and very good handling performance. I've never had weather checking on my Michelin's. Perhaps because my vehicles are always garaged and get less UV exposure. We will see as I expect to have this truck for a long time.
 
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