Mud Flap, I read your post.
You seem to think I didn't because you went on to make the point that you were talking about what other people, not you might be saying and feeling.
Please note that I did read it. You will see that in my post I used the word "SOME", as in "...you are saying that SOME..."
I recognized that you were not taking about your specific thoughts but the way many people feel. But as stated, even if talking about how other people feel, then it is illogical. Not your illogic, but the illogic of the other people.
Likewise, even as TomT says, if some "people" think that it would somehow "dishonor" the service people that have already died, or make their deaths somehow meaningless, again, I say that is illogical.
If a war becomes the "wrong war" (not necessarily saying this one is), but if it does, then seeing it to through might very well mean more deaths for no real gain.
We should not continue to fight for the soul reason to not dishonor the memory of those that have died. That is NOT a good enough reason.
Which brings us to the question...what is the best, possible situation for us to declare victory, what will that look like, where will that leave us, the Iraqis, and the Middle east, and what will it cost in US lives?
There has to be a reason for the deaths, and so far that reason is some rhetoric about "winning the war on terror", and "not pulling out as it would dishonor those that have died!"....I'm asking the tough question....
What does real victory in this war look like and what will it cost?
TJR