ST - is it a SUV? SUT? Truck?

[Scott Tanner]

As far as the DOT goes, a truck, in the sense that they're trying to legislate, is one over 9600 lbs GVWR. Then again, as said above, they can do anything they want. Whether they can make someone fork over a fine, i would fight them all the way.. that's one of the reasons i didn't move into a house near me, part of a planned tract... PITA.. :angry:

 

[Thomas Rogers]

STanner...DOT is a state agency so definitions vary from state to state.

 

[Paul Maurer 2]

And I thought I was the only one with this problem... amazing how rules enacted to protect genteel society of 20 years ago can persist. The condo assoc. at my Miami beach townhouse has the same stupid rule, we recently tried to change it due to the proliferation of luxury SUTs on the island, but only succeeded in amending it to allow these vehicles overnight if equipped with a tonneau cover! It helped that one of the condo board members has an Escalade EXT and realized the rule was antiquated. On private property, the association rules are legal, regardless of how the DOT sees it, so we had no choice but to try and amend or abolish the rule through the condo board.

 

[Ryan Roberson]

I live in indiana and most of the time they ask you how you want to plate it. Passenger plate if you plan on using it that way or a truck if you use it to haul or tow anything. Atleast thats the way i always understood.

 

[Dale Carter]

Two points



re:fines - for those who say "pay the fine", didn't Rampo say the tickets were "warning" only, HOA's have no authority to impose fines on anyone but members of the HOA



re:definition of trucks - most common legal definitions of "truck" is commercial truck 2-ton and over. If the ST is a legal "truck" does that mean I have to stop at the scales on I-20 which clearly say that "All trucks must exit"? There is no verbage to indicate commercial or heavy, just all trucks. :lol::lol:

 

[Thomas Rogers]

Dale Carter says:

most common legal definitions of "truck" is commercial truck 2-ton and over

Yeah, that's one definition.



As for whether or not its common, or more specifically the "most common" is debatable and what jurisdictions that "legal" definition holds is also questionable.



But I get your point. The signs that say: "All Trucks Must Exit" are a little vague but it seems most everyone knows they mean heavy commercial trucks. The important thing is that those that must pull over to get weighed know who they are.



TJR

 

[Kelly Traylor]

Mississippi - Sport Trac = Truck

It is a truck!



But mine is more like a 4x4 car with a really big trunk!!! ARE cover installed.



KatManT

 

[Scott Tanner]

TJR



the US DOT, sub-dept ICC, states that the trucks 9600# and above are subject to a whole different set of rules, frome licensing, safety, equipment, driver's license level, etc. the state can embellish this if they want, but because truck cross state lines, they have to at least meet the US DOT specs





anyhoo, sounds like the HOA needs to get it's head out of its you-know-what... What if a resident drives a $50,000 Cadillac Escalade? truck? car? these HOA guy need to get a hobby:lol:

 

[Nelson Atwell]

Your in-laws should have alllowed you to park in the garage. I'm an officer of our HOA, and it is crazy the things that people get worked up about. We have so many stupid rules, but it almost takes God to change them after them being in place for 20 years. Thank goodness, we aren't too tough on actually enforcing them, because I would hate living in my neighborhood if we did.

 

[Thomas Rogers]

Yup, I haven't disagreed with anything you or Dale C said, STanner. But that's not the only definition of a truck. Those that write the tickets get to define what a truck is and isn't.



TJR

 

[EddieS'04]

I might have to live in older nieghbor hoods, as I do now...but I will never live in a hood with an, HOA, I hate them and they suck and suck what they suck...

 

[Brandon Hughes]

what about an el camino (it has an open bed)?

 

[Jackie Beene]

Bill-E,

I live down near Springfield, MO. When I bought my Sporttrac, I went to the local DMV and wanted to move my personalized plate {BEENE} from my Honda Delsol to the Sporttrac. The local person at the DMV had not seen one and could not make up his mind as to-- was a truck or an SUV? He did not want to let me move my tags from the car to a truck. He finally let me use my personalized tags when I showed him my bedcover and that it was locked up. I called it a "large trunk"!! 6 months later, I got a letter from the DMV saying that I had illegally tansferred tags from a car to a truck. I ignored the papers sent to me and hoped that they would leave me alone, which they did. This year I had to renew my tags and thought that I would be caught this time. Nope, they let me keep my card tags. I hope this was not too off topic, however I don't think they know exactly which catagory it falls into.

Jackie

 

[Gavin Allan]

re: ST - is it a SUV? SUT? Truck? by Bill-E,12/5/2005 08:12 CT



In Missouri the ST is registered as an automobile as are SUV's. State laws do not define the vehicle; rather, the design is the defining factor. The ST has a small truck bed and looks like an extended [crew] cab pickup. Ask any five year old boy and he'll tell you the ST is a truck. As far as I'm concerned, my ST is my truck.

Bill, I live in Missouri and my ST is registered as a truck (6000 #GWR [BL]).



The license bureau told me that my ST had to be registered as a truck because of the open bed, but that my wife's Liberty could be registered either as a car or a truck (my choice).



Isn't government a wonderful thing?

 

[Bill Ellis]

Garvin, just shows you how goofy some things are. When I got my ST, I just transferred the plate from my Chevy Corsica. I suppose I could have had a choice.

 

[John G]

In Iowa it's an SUV, which costs lots more to register than a truck.



I found the state bureaucrat who classisfies the vehicles, and I complained. He told me that it doesn't matter what it looks like, he doesn't make any judgements himself how to classify a vehicle. He relies strictly on what the mfg. says.



Ford told the state that the ST is an SUV; therefore, the state taxes it as an SUV.

 

[spaudio 1]

I prefer LUST - luxury utility sport truck. She's too pretty to call a SLUT.

 

[Mike Wilson]

sp_audio,

Oh, that is so good (LUST), since that's what most of us do over our tracs,

anyway!

I would fight the "truck parking" citation, as most city ordinances were written

to define trucks as semis or commercial vehicles, and most homeowner association

rules and regulations (covenants) were written by uppity, better-than-thou types

who have nothing better to do with their day than to stroll around the neighborhood

and see how they can make life rougher on those around them!

Good Luck Rampo!!!

tnb

 

[Thomas Rogers]

Tracnblack says:

I would fight the "truck parking" citation, as most city ordinances were written to define trucks as semis or commercial vehicles, and most homeowner association rules and regulations (covenants) were written by uppity, better-than-thou types who have nothing better to do with their day than to stroll around the neighborhood and see how they can make life rougher on those around them!

Good Luck Rampo!!!

Anarchy and lawlessness!



So communities can't define their own regulations?



This was a case where Rampo knew the regulation and decided to take a chance.



So people shouldn't be responsible for their actions anymore?



TJR

 

[Gavin Allan]

It was just a citation from a homoaner's association? Crumple it up and throw it away!



I'd ball-bat the idiot who puts one of those on my truck.