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There are four stanzas to the "Star Spangled Banner."



O! say can you see by the dawn's early light,

What so proudly we hailed at the twilight's last gleaming,

Whose broad stripes and bright stars through the perilous fight,

O'er the ramparts we watched, were so gallantly streaming?

And the rockets' red glare, the bombs bursting in air,

Gave proof through the night that our flag was still there;

O! say does that star-spangled banner yet wave

O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave?



On the shore, dimly seen through the mists of the deep,

Where the foe's haughty host in dread silence reposes,

What is that which the breeze, o'er the towering steep,

As it fitfully blows, half conceals, half discloses?

Now it catches the gleam of the morning's first beam,

In full glory reflected now shines in the stream:

'Tis the star-spangled banner, O! long may it wave

O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave.



And where is that band who so vauntingly swore

That the havoc of war and the battle's confusion,

A home and a country should leave us no more!

Their blood has washed out their foul footsteps' pollution.

No refuge could save the hireling and slave

From the terror of flight, or the gloom of the grave:

And the star-spangled banner in triumph doth wave

O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave.



O! thus be it ever, when freemen shall stand

Between their loved home and the war's desolation!

Blest with victory and peace, may the heav'n rescued land

Praise the Power that hath made and preserved us a nation.

Then conquer we must, when our cause it is just,

And this be our motto: "In God is our trust."

And the star-spangled banner in triumph shall wave

O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave!
 
I don't think we take it for granite, it's just that if we played all 4 stanzas at every event, we would have to lengthen every sporting event by another 30 minutes...:yawn:



Besides, Do you think Roseanne Barr could remember all those words and remember to spit at the appropriate times...:bwahaha:



...Rich
 
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I agree that we don't take it for granted, it is one of those "we know what we know" kind of things.



I was familiar with the verses, but it is interesting that few actually do know of them...
 
I learned it in elementary school. Nothing new. With that in mind, why is this a big deal in the Conservative Email Forwarding Network? I just got back from a trip to Texas and found this video crawling throughout the conservative websites and among my conservative and teabagging Facebook friends' posts.
 
I learned it in elementary school. Nothing new. With that in mind, why is this a big deal in the Conservative Email Forwarding Network? I just got back from a trip to Texas and found this video crawling throughout the conservative websites and among my conservative and teabagging Facebook friends' posts.



A little thing called "Patriotism" we learned that in elementary school...
 
No refuge could save the hireling and slave

From the terror of flight, or the gloom of the grave:

It's amazing that someone in the PC crowd hasn't gotten ahold of this verse, and used it to push for a new, more PC national anthem.



I personally would prefer the anthem to be "America the Beautiful"--but not for any reason related to this verse. It's simply a better song.
 
I heard the tune of our national anthem sung as its original form while I was in England. It was a drinking song sung in pubs.



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Richard L said:
I don't think we take it for granite, it's just that...



That reminds me of a story:



I put in a new marble countertop and some friends came over and saw it.



They asked: "Is that granite?"



To which I responded: "Oh, c'mon now. Please don't take my marble counter for granite!"



Seriously, though, Richard L, the word you are looking for is: "granted".



Sorry, couldn't resist. A pet peeve of mine. Like when people say: "supposably", or "could care less".



:banana:



TJR
 
TJR,

Good eye! I knew it was "Granted", but I still used "Granite" for some reason? But it is an easy trap to fall into. :supercool:



...Rich
 
The National Anthem was adapted from a poem by a man named Key. The reason that 99 percent of the time you don't hear the 3 additional stanzas at ball games, schools, government functions etc... is because the American public is ASSURED the seperation of church and state by the FIRST ammendment to the Constitution. The fourth stanza mentions God, and we all know that the United States does not have (nor will EVER have) an official religion.
 
because the American public is ASSURED the seperation of church and state by the FIRST ammendment to the Constitution



Bull squeeze.



Amendment I



Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.



The Founding Fathers' intent behind the first sentence of this amendment was to prevent the Federal gov't from establishing an official, "state" religion, thus guaranteeing American citizens the right to practice whatever religion they chose, or none at all. This was in reaction to the King of England establishing the Anglican church as the official/state religion of England. In fact, at the time of the Constitution and Bill of Rights' ratification, many of the states still had their own "official/state" religions. And they were free to do so, as guaranteed by the 10th Amendment.



The reference to God in the fourth stanza of the "Star Spangled Banner" is no different than the phrase "In God We Trust" appearing on our currency, or any other reference to "God" found in gov't. It's in no way a declaration/establishment of an official religion, but rather a generic acknowledgement of the Creator, and can be interpreted to mean God, Christ, Allah, Yahweh, Odin, Zeus, Jupiter, etc.... take your pick.



The phrase "separation of church and state" appears nowhere in the Constiution, nor anywhere in the U.S. code.
 
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Hey Trac The first ammendment of the CONSTITUTION, most certainly assures that church and state are seperate. You are wrong there bra.



I have to ask you what is U.S. code? Is that something you made up like state religions?? Hilarious!! Why dont you just gimme a state and its "offical" religion. Better yet...make a list and post it here. The other members surely would LOVE to read that one!



Im gonna have to make it my job to show everyone that train trac is trippin!



Hey Bud you are no longer the top fabricator here...,.its train trac or maybe brain lack!



HAHAHA

 
If you have to ask what "US Code" is, then you are banned from any further dialog concerning

topics above your IQ on this forum.:cheeky::bwahaha:



TrainTrac, you have your "FACTS" right, as usual....

you are battling a duel of wits with an unarmed boy...
 
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Of course belief in God and freedom to worship God had nothing to do with the founding of our country, come on guys. :grin: I guess if you say something long enough with enough people saying the same thing it makes it true. Read the book, Signers of the Declaration and see what you think then about chruch and state, ignorant sheep following the crowd. Let the ignorant be ignorant still.
 
I don't agree with the religious stuff, but to ignore that religion had a part in our history as a country is ignorant.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_religion - I know wikipedia isn't the best source but it's good enough to make the point.

It (1st Amendment) did not prevent state governments from establishing official churches. Connecticut continued to do so until it replaced its colonial Charter with the Connecticut Constitution of 1818; Massachusetts retained an establishment of religion in general until 1833. (The Massachusetts system required every man to belong to some church, and pay taxes towards it; while it was formally neutral between denominations, in practice the indifferent would be counted as belonging to the majority denomination, and in some cases religious minorities had trouble being recognized at all.)
 
Frank you might have not understood my post, or I was not good at communicating. A high percentage of the signers were not only Christians but clergymen. The book was first written in about 1847. And you are right not all the signers were Christian but a large percentage were.
 

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